Kim Kardashian West slammed as 'ignorant' for wearing braids at MTV Movie & TV Awards

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  1. REALITY CHUCK

    REALITY CHUCK Well-Known Member

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    Good point, you're right.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol ahh the sound of someone who has no clue about what they are talking about, and takes an active role in keeping it that way. Maybe you should figure out what Cultural Appropriation actually means, rather then your limited view of it, before weighing in?
     
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    What is "utter BS" is your message. No one has to have any love or respect for any culture and claiming a hair style is a culture is absurd. Blacks did not invent braids and it is irrelevant if otherwise.

    THE OUTRAGE of cultural appropriation is just another example of the Democratic Party continuing to be the KKK and racial segregation party, with many leftwings and the propaganda MSM owned by the super rich agenda of racial and ethic segregation. Ranting about cultural appropriate 100% is ranting on behalf of racial and ethnic segregation and isolation demanding each person stick to their own race and ethnicity. The attack against her is 100% pure racism and pursuit of segregation as the Democratic Party always has done.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Culture appropriation means not being a racist and segregationist. Demanding people stay within their own "culture" really is just code language for advocacy of racial and ethnic segregation.
     
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    ....did.....did you actually read my post?

    I don't think you did, because IF you did, you'd realize I didn't say a hairstyle is Cultural Appropriation. And Billions of people have love and respect for cultures. Some only theirs, some theirs and others. Some only others.

    Also, if you had started reading the thread from the beginning, you'd realize my first post in the thread was one condemning the idiots on twitter for going after her.

    Keep up why don't ya?
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WHAT? LOLOLOL.

    That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today.

    Maybe try googling 'what is cultural appropriation' before commenting
     
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    Any person is free to pick and chose anything they like or dislike from any "culture." No one should let racists and segregationists tell them otherwise. Racism is rampant now within the Democratic Party - all sold by the propaganda of the MSM owned by white globalist super rich.
     
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    That is exactly what it means when used as a condemnation. It is a demand that each person stay within their own "culture" - and by that they mean race and ethnicity.
     
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    Not at all. Well, not by me at least. Cultural Appropriation (as I understand it) is to take a component of another culture that has a place of honor and respect in that culture, and use it in a way that completely ignores that place of honor and the application of its use.

    I used the Head-dress metaphor because some random person wearing one because it 'looks cool' is akin to Wearing a bunch of Military Medals for fun, and completely ignoring the sacrifice necessary to earn such medals.
     
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    Style is NOTHING like military medals.

    There is NO duty to "honor and respect" the aesthetics or meaning one culture attaches to something. None whatsoever. Nor does a person have any duty to honor and respect other cultures or stay within their own culture. If a person likes how something looks in terms of clothing or hairstyle, use it. It is irrelevant what significance that means to other cultures.

    How many MILLIONS of people wear big Christian crosses when they are not Christian at all, do not act Christian and even condemn Christianity? But anyone can do that.

    It also is notable no one ever complains of anything of white "culture" being "appropriated." Nearly all the world wears western suits and ties, even as they condemn the West. Every hear a liberal condemn this as wrongful cultural appropriation?

    No one and no culture can ever own any aesthetic. To claim otherwise is like claiming mental and artistic slavery. The demand to stay within your own culture and ethnicity is outward appearance is inherently segregation.
     
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    Wow. Impressive argument from someone who obviously has no clue what a headdress is and represents to First Nations people. Its not a style thing. It's literally a First Nations "military" medal you earn through a series of challenges within that culture. Do some research.

    And there is no such thing as "white" culture. There is Scottish culture, Irish Culture, Germanic Culture, Scandinavian Culture, etc..etc.. but no "white" culture.

    And Christianity is a religion, not a culture. Massive difference.
     
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    The entire concept of "cultural appropriation" is a creation of limp wrist White leftist bigots who are driven by an innate need to control other races just as pedophiles are driven by an innate need to lust after children.

    They want to reign over all races and set the rules for the use of vaguely relevant cultural elements, among other things, because it is White leftists that believe in racial supremacy.

    They see themselves as sitting high above all others, commanding how we are all to interact with each other, organizing us into a progressive stack, and dictating to us what is and what isn't acceptable in this free world.

    We never heard a word about this "problem" until fascist White leftists started kicking the dirt up.
     
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    ah so lefties think white people cant wear certain things. What things cant poor black girls wear in your opinion?
     
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    ROFL you never heard about it until White sympathizers decided to actually learn about other cultures and realized some of our actions were insanely offensive and decided to emulate JC and try and love and respect each other and what's important. Crazy, I know, but it's that old Christian upbringing that does us in sometimes.

    ROFL. What a completely myopic view of what I said. Lets see, to answer your silly question, poor black girls who aren't in the military can't wear military medals as though they earned them. Then again, that goes for anyone who didn't earn them, but it still fits your "question".
     
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    Actually they can wear whatever they want. In America people are free. Who really has the myopic view now?
     
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    The guy who thinks that just because your allowed, doesn't mean your not an ******* for doing it.
     
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    but not the guy who thinks a white girl cant wear braids...lol too funny how the left thinks.
    Here in America white girls, black girls and every shade in between can wear braids even if it hurts a lefties emotions.
     
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    So the chicken came before the egg?

    Because if we never learned about other cultures then how did we emulate some of their mannerism in the first place?

    And who came along and decided it was "offensive" to use things other people have invented anyways?

    That's pretty antithetical to this "multiculturalism" bullshit we always hear about right?

    Leftists are like "oh, oh man, other cultures are so great meaaa we need to be enriched by them meaaa" ...then out of the other side of their mouth... "how dare you racists wear your hair in the same way a Black person wore it omg hate crimes microaggressions literally Hitler!!!!!"

    And if we're going to ascend to maximum butthurt whenever somebody uses something another culture invented then uh ...excuse me rest of the world but White Americans invented cars, airplanes, electricity, computers, and a crap load of other stuff so please stop using these things because it "offends" my culture.

    /eyeroll

    C'mon cubed, you know this "cultural appropriate" is a bullshit triviality that ranks somewhere near dead last in the long list of problems humans have to deal with.

    Its only purpose is to serve as trigger-fodder for people who want to perpetrate the victim-hood and "everyone is racist but me" mentalities.
     
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    Are you condemning black women that straighten their hair? The whole concept of "cultural appropriation" is just another arrow in the quiver
    of the fascist left.
     
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    I never said she couldn't. I'm unaware of any cultural significance of braids beyond it being a hairstyle that works with the kind of hair they have.

    Just because we can see the cultural cornerstones and think they look nice, doesn't mean we understand the meaning behind them. It's why I keep coming back to the headdress argument because not even all First Nations people are allowed to wear them. They have a deep significance to that culture and to be allowed to wear one requires a lot of commitment and actions.

    My second response to you will follow the next quote because I think they dovetail nicely

    How about you stop assuming that the worst of the Left represents the entire left, and I'll do the same for the right. K?

    Neither side is some monolithic being with a single brain.

    As for your first argument, I'm pretty sure that straight hair isn't cultural beyond style. When I (and I mean the personal me) say 'cultural appropriation' I mean people who utilize another cultures components without understanding the meaning behind them and utilizing them simply for style.

    Wearing a headdress is akin to wearing military medals.

    People going after Kim for her hair are stupid.

    Those two statements can exist from the same person side by side, even though that might seem crazy and unthinkable to you.
     
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    I'm not assuming anything. Just going by your own posts which I thought were rather evocative of those claiming Kardashian's hair style equals cultural appropriation. But since you unequivocally state that going after Kim for her hair style is stupid (though the style is
    repulsive to me, something I've thought ever since Bo Derek began the trend) I withdraw whatever objections I may have had.

    Maybe you can push your nose back into place now.
     
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    Well I did say this back in my very first post in the thread. That said, I appreciate your acknowledgment and am glad we found some common ground :)
     
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    Its not the braids. Kanye doesnt hate Trump, Kim doesnt hate Kanye, and so left hates them both.

    ...and seems to hate them even more since they're minorities(ish) who don't hate Trump.

    Wait, HOLLYWOOD minorities that don't hate Trump.

    Oh man. Thats like tripletrigger for lefties.
     
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