Kushner's "deal of the century" falls flat on it's face

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no i dont support killing babies and women
     
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    Except there was no genocide.

    Judges 1:
    The land ceased to be Canaan long ago, so what was good in the eyes of God and his people then, no longer applies today. Unlike Muslims, Jews are not commanded to emulate their past leaders, and can even freely criticize them.

    There's so much more to Judaism than just the Torah, or the Tanach.
     
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    Thanks for the grammar lesson. It has been a while since I've been in school but that is no excuse. I'm am getting forgetful in my dotage and not always careful about grammar as I'm pressed for time. I'm not trying to school anyone. I'm trying to provide information to balance the right-wing American narrative on this website and to show the real history behind the corporate, patriotic propaganda that overwhelms so much of the discussion here.

    People do care about the Palestinians. What do you think they have been given and by whom? By dehumanizing them as unworthy and hateful, you are not only wrong but are allowing voice to the narrative that they are undeserving of the same right to life and nationhood which you take for granted.

    Also, Mediterranean is spelled like that not Mediterranian

    You're welcome....:D
     
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    Nobody is making the Jews follow the Torah, but the Jews themselves.
     
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    Their Torah says otherwise, and look at them buggers go in their totally militarized society.
    They either killed or removed 90% of the Arabs inside Israel, and they are moving across their own border to go on with it.
     
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    Muslims don't follow that Jew hate religion that supports genocide.
     
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    The Jew learns that genocide is fine by reading the Torah. Get over it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_warfare


    The Tanakh (Jewish Bible) contains commandments that require the Israelites to exterminate seven Canaanite nations, and describes several wars of extermination that annihilated entire cities or groups of peoples. The targets of the "extermination commandments" were the seven Canaanite nations explicitly identified by God in Deut 7:1-2 and Deut 20:16-18.[25] These seven tribes are Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. Most of these descended from the biblical figure Canaan, as described in Gen 10:15-18. In addition, two others tribes were subject to wars of extermination: Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:1-20)[26] and Midianites (Numbers 31:1-18). The extermination of the Canaanite nations is described primarily in the Book of Joshua (especially Joshua 10:28-42) which includes the Battle of Jericho described in Joshua 6:15-21.[fn 1]

    Wars of extermination are referred to in several of Judaism's biblical commandments, known as the 613 Mitzvot:[28]

    • Not to keep alive any individual of the seven Canaanite nations (Deut. 20:16)
    • To exterminate the seven Canaanite nations from the land of Israel (Deut. 20:17)
    • Always to remember what Amalek did (Deut. 25:17)
    • That the evil done to us by Amalek shall not be forgotten (Deut. 25:19)
    • To blot out the name (or memory) of Amalek (or, according to Maimonides: to destroy the seed of Amalek) (Deut. 25:19)
     
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    The Torah was given to the Jews by Alalalalalalalah.

    so says Muhammed.

    The Jews were taken out of Egypt by Alalalalalalah.

    so says Muhammed.
     
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    And nobody is making the Jews follow their hate religion full of genocide. They bare their own responsibility.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_in_Islam#Exodus

    According to the Koran and the Hadiths, Allah committed genocide against the people of Egypt for refusing to free the Jewish slaves.

    What kind of evil, sick God kills the first born son of a whole nation?

    Allah.
     
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    you want the Jews to reject Allah and the Torah, which genocidal Allalalalaalala gave to them?
     
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    Islam revers Joshua and the conquest of Canaan, as a holy deed:

    Joshua (Arabic: يُوشَعُ بْنُ نُونٍ‎ Yûshaʿ-u bn-u Nûn-in juːʃaw bin nuːn) is not mentioned by name in the Quran, but his name appears in other Islamic literature. In the Quranic account of the conquest of Canaan, Joshua and Caleb are referenced, but not named, as two "Allah-fearing men", on whom God"had bestowed His grace".[48]

    They said, "Moses, there is a fearsome people in this land. We will not go there until they leave. If they leave, then we will enter." Yet the two men whom God had blessed among those who were afraid said, "Go in to them through the gate and when you go in you will overcome them. If you are true believers, put your trust in God.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua#In_Islam


    — Qur'an, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah 22–23, Haleem translation
     
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    I don't know why but this part of your post really made an impression.

    More accurate to say that you don't care about the Palestians rather than no one does.

    When you demonize people as less than human it allows you to commit the most horrible atrocities against them. History is full of many examples not the least what happened to Jews in the middle of last century.

    Change the names and here we are again...........
     
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    Wikipedia? Seriously?
     
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    The God of the Torah is Allah, and if he told the Israelites to commit genocide its because Alalalalaalalah is a genocidal God
     
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    They don't follow Allah... their own religion promotes genocide.
     
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    Allah is the God of the Torah.

    Allah gave the Jews the Torah and took them out of Egypt.

    so says the Koran and Muhammed.

    The Koran and Hadiths consider Joshua to be a holy man who followed Allah
     
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    Islam also promotes genocide as Muslims committed genocide and massacres against the Armenians, Bulgarians, Assyrians, Greeks,
     
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    What's your point? The Jews still do not believe in Islam.
    They believe in their pro genocidal religion.
     
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    I don't see you debunking this.
     
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    Nobody makes the Jew be religious. If they follow their genocidal religion, than it's the problem of the Jew.

    You go source that the genocide against the Bulgarians was mentioned in the Islam somewhere.
     
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    Allah committed genocide against the people of Egypt, killing all of their first-born sons.

    why is the God of Islam such a genocidal maniac?
     
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    Allah gave the Jews the Torah.

    Allah killed all the first sons of Egypt.

    Alalalalalalalalah is a genocidal God!!!
     
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    kinda silly for Muslims to attack the Torah and its God, when Islam says that Allah gave the Jews the Torah and was the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Solomon, Moses, Joshua, David etc.

    if the Jew's God is genocidal, then Allah is a genocidal God
     
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