LA Times Admits Australian-Style Gun Control Would Do Nothing

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  1. Vegas giants

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    It reminds them of black people.....very scary. Lol
     
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    It doesn't scare me at all.

    My color of choice is blue and all of my firearms have to be cold hard forged milled steel with some walnut.

    If it's a bolt action rifle it has to be a Mauser action.

    If it's a gas operated semi auto rifle it has to have a gas piston not an ArmaLite gas tube.
     
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    Probably no need for this, "were black scary looking" then.
     
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    It's a common enough phrase to describe how GCAs feel about AR-15s.
     
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    No, it's BS rightwing propaganda. I get a laugh anytime it's used in a post to me considering that that rifle saved my life more than once.
     
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    Then why do so many of the firearms targeted for prohibition have a primarily black finish?
     
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    Ah, because they happen to have a black finish?
     
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    No, it's how GCAs view ARs and the like. Evil black guns.
     
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    They all happen to shoot bullets too.

    Coincidence? Lol
     
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    Irrational fear.
     
  11. Xenamnes

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    It would appear the ignore feature has been disabled.
     
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    Yes but you can get help for that
     
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    Works just fine - my screen is free and clear of nonsense.
     
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    Mine was....until a second ago. LOL
     
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    Of course it would do nothing

    Shocked?

    Anything done in the USA has to be part of a long term solution with changes in attitudes and beliefs. There are simply too many guns for a buy back to work

    However

    And this would rely heavily on changing beliefs, some legislation may mitigate the gun morbidity and mortality

    I would like to see more tracking if guns. The USA has become the go to place internationally for illegal small arms
     
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    Buy backs will not work but registration and mandating responsibility would. It works the same as owning a car
     
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    Many do not like to admit to the fact, but it is indeed fact that there are situations for which there are no solutions. Not simply no easy solutions, but rather no solutions whatsoever.

    Pray tell, how exactly might such come to pass? What sort of legislation might possess a mitigation potential, and how would the mitigation potential work in physical terms?

    Pray tell how would such actually work in practical, physical terms?
     
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    Private individuals are already responsible for what happens to their firearms. As to the matter of registration, exactly what would such accomplish in practical, physical terms, that is not being accomplished presently? If a person claims a firearm recovered from the scene of a crime was stolen from them, even if it was actually sold illegally by them, the burden of proof would be on law enforcement to prove the claim false, and evidence to the contrary is very difficult to find. Law enforcement in the united states already has finite resources at their disposal, and having to investigate the last known and registered owner of a firearm is a poor application of such resources. The one who possessed the firearm at the time of the crime committed is of far greater importance for prosecution purposes.
     
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    No it doesn't.
     
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    Nooooo, not in the way it is here

    Take mandatory seat belts.

    Does a cop check you every time you get in a car?

    Same with gun registration. If only one gun is stolen then it would be treated like a stolen pushbike. If they find it it is returned but they are not going to lose sleep over it unless, there is reason to believe something worse may happen. What it would do though is stop straw purchases.

    In the case of the 16 years old that shot the police accountant (terrorist attack) we were able to trace the gun through all the handlers and every single one of those bastards served jail time
     
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    The divide in the US is now so deep that there isn’t the basis for the trust required for that level of culture shift. Attempts by the left to push such an agenda will have the effect it did under Obama where the greatest spike in the increase of firearms among civilian hands occurred. By 2016, the number one concern of Americans was a distrust of their government, a concern that has grown since that election.
    Gun owners in the US vote largely conservative, are incredibly distrustful of liberals and progressives, see gun control as a political tool of liberals and progressives, and are becoming more entrenched in protecting what they see are attempts by liberals and progressives to subvert the Constitution and dominate the political landscape in the US. Such a shift in core beliefs is unlikely in the foreseeable future.

    As for the US being the go to store for small weapons, it’s true the US exports a lot of arms to countries it supports, but in the AU and elsewhere, what is the ratio of guns found in the hands of criminals and terrorists of American manufacture vs EU, Russian or Chinese manufacture?
     
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    I agree. That is the place to start along with licensing and universal BC
     
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    which is designed to aid gun bans when those come
     
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    Nope just save lives
     
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    find some new lines. none of the stuff you support will save lives. and all the countries whose laws you claim save lives have gun bans as a major part of their laws. none of us believe you are only supporting the stupid laws that don't ban guns and rejecting the bans. most of the stuff you claim would help in the USA don't exist in gun ban countries.

    Universal background checks don't exist in most of the countries you like-citizens cannot privately sell guns whatsoever, for example
     

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