LAWLESS militia aids rancher in collecting WELFARE from taxpayers!

Though your question seems rhetorical, the obvious answer is money and power.

They have only their own self interests to satisfy. They care not at all for those that support or oppose beyond their usefulness in retaining both.

 

But of course. I am questioning "why" let them.

 

We shouldn't. Unfortunately, they have made it all but impossible to change their MO and "the people" either don't have the capacity to grasp what they are doing, or are merely looking out for their own self interests.

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These weaponised arses are spoiling for martyrdom. The government sensibly didn't oblige. waiting 20 years and winning several court cases isn't over-reaction. They need to soak his taxes and lien everything he owns until his fines are paid, he stops stealing grazing, and he starts obeying the law.

 

I missed that one yesterday! GOOD POINT! Hell, most of the IMMIGRANTS act a helluva lot better than a whole host of HOME GROWN WHITE GUYS!!!

 

Sounds like a quote from King George! LOL Typical knee-jerk leftist response, demonize anyone who you disagree with.

No, but showing up with an Army and giving out orders to shoot citizens certainly is.

 

I agree, how near-sighted that self-interest must be. Sad.

 

When they're brandishing military weaponry? Doesn't seem like a bad idea.

 

I doubt they would've brought as many weapons if it seemed like a peaceful protest. Lets not forget that righties have a history of bringing guns, and I'm sure Internet chatter didn't help their cause.

 

Apparently nothing seems like a bad idea when it comes to big government, even when they are acting like a tyrant, or should I say, especially when they act like a tyrant, so long as you agree with them. What about when they don't agree with you? Is it still a good idea?

 

As many weapons? LOL

Yes, bringing guns to a gun wielding tyrannical government would be a sensible thing to do. I doubt the government would be so mindful of their actions to a crowd with cardboard signs.

When a dumb-ass bureaucratic environmentalist has the power over a law-abiding citizen to adversely affect the productive livelihood of generations is when the pendulum has swung too far. Same issue in CA with the Delta Smelt fish and water rights. This government is out of control and needs to be reigned in.

 

How do they know that he is unarmed?? Perhaps he's carrying concealed?

 

Speaking of Google, search how many people are killed by law enforcement. Law enforcement has become quite militant in the last 20-30 years. While that may not be illegal, it is dangerous for the citizen, and its not like law enforcement is infallible...

 

Again, WHAT military weaponry?

Show us the Automatics, the RPG's etc., or please come to grips with your delusion.

 

What military weaponry? That term keeps getting bandied about.

 

By not paying his grazing fees for grazing his cattle on federal land since 1998. The federal government owns the land, it was given ownership of the land when Nevada became a State. The Federal Government owned that land long before Bundy's ancestors began grazing their cattle on that land. When Congress decided to impose grazing fees, they were well withing their rights (Article IV section 3 "The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any )particular State."

This clown has stated that he does not believe the United States has any authority over him, and that he does not recognize any of the laws of the United States which is basically copping the Sovereign Citizen line of BS. He has been ignoring multiple court orders. What I don't understand is why at this point after 20 years, he is not held in Contempt of Court and tossed into the hoosegow until he pays his back fees and fines.

 

FYI, I agree with you, except the government did not need to respond with a paramilitary unit of 200 to include armored vehicles, armed helicopters and advanced military equipment. They could just lien his property, end of story, because that is what the "normal" government procedure is. I hope you are not telling me this should happen to someone that doesn't pay their property tax are you?

My entire point has been the over reaction of the government in this instance, so if you have proof that they needed all that armament, please produce it, and I will agree that that much force was needed.

 

The government owns it? Can I see a copy of the deed? Just who is the government?

 

If the Feds had gone that route I'm sure no one would have ever heard of Clive Bundy. I don't think anyone is claiming he's pure as driven snow in this case. The problem lies with how the Feds went about this using extreme and destructive force. Pointing guns at unarmed people, slaughtering Clives penned bull because they were too scared to deal with it alive, then just leaving it there. His other bull shot also. Over 100 other head of cattle missing and presumed dead die to excessive running and gunshots.
They even drove over a tortoise den.
The federal BLM doesn't belong on that property because they've proven they have no respect for property, animals or humans.

 

Shhhhh... The scary guns have clearly unsettled some people, but calling them scary doesn't sound as good as calling it military hardware...

 

ahh okay....he owes back fees


Was it neccessary to have a swat team come and collect them?

 

Please give the evidence that that was a militia member.

 

How are they acting tyrannical? Tyranny would be going in and confiscating his property the second he stopped paying fees--not 20 years of bureaucracy and court cases. Lets not forget it took that long to reach this point. I'm just surprised you supposed law and order types are defending a deadbeat?