LeBron James: NFL owners hold ‘slave mentality’ toward players

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lebron James begs for attention, at all times. He will never be what Michael Jordan was and it kills him inside. Lebron won't win 6 championships.

    Lebron is also the same guy that said he hates "Super Teams" lol
     
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  2. Mr.Incognito

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    He's not complaining about the NBA
     
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    Bad analogy. Almost as dumb as calling illegals invaders.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Jordan = Great baller

    King James = Greatest Baller EVER
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I don't know.

    I'd tend to trust a pro athlete over those who aren't.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    King James is the greatest ATHLETE to ever play basketball. That I cannot argue. He isn't the best PLAYER ever. He needs more championships
     
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    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    LOL!

    The dumb bastard doesn't know his place.

    He's barely smart enough to dribble.

    :mrgreen:
     
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    This is hilarious.

    An absurdly wealthy black dude stereotyping old white guys. This is what you can pull with the race card.
     
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    :handshake:
     
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    Leave Zion Williamson out of this!!!
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Er-oh.

    Openly played the race card; there goes the imaginary RW high ground. :(
     
  12. Steve N

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    The percentage of bad cops is far smaller than bad football players and look where that went.
     
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    Football players don't carry guns.

    At least not on the field.

    Usually...

    They also aren't licensed to kill.
     
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    Football players are allowed to brutally assault people, most often black people, and get away with it.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Naw.
     
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    I am right wing. But the topic isn't a race issue. It's an idealogical issue. A tenured white professor could very well have the same attitude because they have a similar situation.
    These sports players go from high school, to college to NFL. Academic professors as well, go straight from high school to academia. Both have no experience within our capitalist system. There is no immersion in real working America, where you get a job on the lower rung , appreciate it, work hard to advance forward either within the same company or another.

    These players go straight from nothing to wealth and miss that whole process and thus no one in working America will connect or relate to these cries of anger when they are asked to conform. Most Americans think it's commonsense to respect your employer and follow employers guidelines and policies.

    I think it's a worthy conversation...because there is ignorance in the world of acadamia that ought to be acknowledged.
     
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    You don't get that in college, but you do get those feelings through experience in life.
     
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    James is physically talented but not very bright
     
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    I would have thought the issue here was your ignorance OF the world of academia. You seem to think that people leave high school, amble through a degree and just get given a tenured position at a University.

    What actually happens is that they start as a (usually unpaid) student - the lowest rung. Then they get marks good enough to be accepted for postgraduate qualifications such as a PhD - working hard. Then they have to complete the PhD & submit it for marking - working very hard. Some will also work as tutors during this period - more hard work. If they complete their PhD they have to find a paid position somewhere and start publishing, and publishing, and publishing some more. Conferences, papers, maybe books, and teaching, frequently on short term contracts - working hard to advance forward in either one University or another. Then, if they are sufficiently good at their jobs they might end up as one of the 25% of staff who are either on the track to tenure or actually get tenure.

    If you think a person doesn't appreciate their position after all that then you are the one who is ignorant.
     
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    Overall I agree with what Lebron was saying, but he should have worded it differently. The NFL is by far the worst league and has the worst sports commissioner. They run players into the ground, give them terrible unguaranteed contracts, and then just release them and pickup a fresh new body. They obviously don't care too much for their players (Unless you're the QB). I understand the sport itself is physical and injuries are going to happen, but there needs to be a better way to protect their players and ensure that they are taken care of financially.

    In contrast, the NBA is probably the best league and their commissioner is great. The players are taken care of and the sport will likely end up being right behind soccer as the most popular sport in the world eventually.
     
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    So it means we also have white slaves. No discrimination there then.
     
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    Academia is a separate world from real world America. Not saying that professors don't work. These football players work too!!
    But academia tend to be ignorant of real working, real life America and this if why their views can come off extreme.
     
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    No, academia is like a great many other professional fields. It requires hard work, dedication, and intelligence. Most academics are on short term contracts and face constant assessment. It is as 'real' as most jobs and more 'real' than many.

    People with 'extreme' views exist across all sectors of society - just read a few threads on this forum if you doubt me. The difference is that the views of academics are attributed to them rather than being anonymous. I wonder how many people on this forum would have the courage to put a name and contact details to their views, as academics are expected to do. The place would die overnight. Academics in many fields are also expected to challenge accepted ideas, to think about things differently. This can often seem 'extreme', especially to people who prefer to think in established channels.
     
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    Didn't read the thread. I get that it is terribly one sided in the NFL. You have over half of the players being African American and the owners are European American. I can understand why the players would feel they aren't getting a fair shake. How could European American owners have a clue of how African Americans who came from mostly ghettos understand their wants and needs? How could they make decisions based on the needs and wants of the majority of players?

    Well, it's a business and always has been. The players are worker bees who get honey for their efforts and the owners make their decisions based on profit. It doesn't work the way the players wish and that isn't due to European descent. It's due to the need to make money so they can continue to provide the salaries the players get.

    In my opinion, the players need to get together, pool their money and make an offer to the owner(s) of their choice. Then, they can pay the players and treat them, those on their payroll, as they wish, within the laws pertaining.

    I think the issue with that is, they can't afford to do it, or they cannot all get together and offer to help finance the buyout, so they want to try to get the government to forcefully change the current system.

    Can you say, "socialism", "totalitarianism", "communism"?

    Just my personal opinions backed by nothing.
     
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    Acadamia has major problems...group think, anti-Americanism and intolerance for views they don't share being a few.
    The extremism comes from acadamias bubble world, where a liberal professor who has tenure and basically can't be fired would probably agree that people who have to work for others are like slaves.

    I am not meaning to offend you but I distinctly remember a second education after college where I realized those professors I thought were enlightened were actually ignorant about how capitalism works, how work places actually are and the real tolerence real Americans have in the real world.
     
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