-Let It Be Known What Atheism Truly Is-

Sorry, I don't have any cool images to show but here are some quotes right out of the Bible.

If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. - Exodus 21:7

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. - Deuteronomy 22:28-29

He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. - 1 Kings 11:3

If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. - Deuteronomy 22:20-21

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. - Numbers 31:17-18

A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. ‘On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. ” ‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. - Leviticus 12: 1-8

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. - 1 Corinthians 14:34

Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. - Colossians 3:18

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. - 1 Timothy 2: 11-15

 

Ah, sorry, mistook you for the OP, since my post was addressing him.

Maybe to you. It should be clear that the point is, when you said "abuse of pleasure", I was questioning the judgement of those who would call it abuse.

Except you're not talking about the human condition; you're talking about the supposed behavior preferences of a bronze age deity.

 

As an atheist, I actually would strongly prefer to give up all of those things (well, to be fair, there is only one I'd actually need to do anything differently to give up, which is infrequent use of porn) and live forever by being a Christian. I would go even further, and say that I'd prefer to be wrong and die as an atheist and go to hell, so that some good people can exist in peace after death, and I could at least exist even if not in a peaceful way. The problem is that Christianity is almost certainly false, and there probably is no god of any kind. I have not seen a logical argument otherwise. I cannot imagine how you do believe in god. If I try to put myself in your shoes, I would have to completely lie to myself in some attempt to have hope for the afterlife.

Also, one doesn't really need gods to understand morality. Immoral actions are those which put others at risk of harm. It gets complicated with the details, but that's the real core of it.

 

God is the creator of everything, you don't get anything without him, thus good principals and morals are God, what is good is God. God is love. What is evil is of satan. We have the knowledge to understand the difference.

 

Let it be known that humans are predisposed to creating thousands of phony gods to bow down to.

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This is all manmade lies.

 

That is it, humans must have hope...religion does the trick.

Gamblers Anonymous on the subject…


“A lot of time is spent creating images of the great and wonderful things they are going to do as soon as they make the big win. They often see themselves as quite philanthropic and charming people. They may dream of providing families and friends with new cars, mink coats, and other luxuries. Compulsive gamblers picture themselves leading a pleasant gracious life, made possible by the huge sums of money they will accrue from their ‘system’. Servants, penthouses, nice clothes, charming friends, yachts, and world tours are a few of the wonderful things that are just around the corner after a big win is finally made.

Pathetically, however, there never seems to be a big enough winning to make even the smallest dream come true. When compulsive gamblers succeed, they gamble to dream still greater dreams. When failing, they gamble in reckless desperation and the depths of their misery are fathomless as their dream world comes crashing down. Sadly, they will struggle back, dream more dreams, and of course suffer more misery. No one can convince them that their great schemes will not someday come true. They believe they will, for without this dream world, life for them would not be tolerable.”

 

I don't need someone or something to tell me it is wrong to murder or rob someone to know it is wrong.

 

What is given to man by God, is that of a woman. The woman completes man. This might be upsetting for some, however I know plenty of woman who are all for the word of God.

The woman has her traits which exceed that of a man, a man has his traits which exceed that of a woman. Having said that, I give myself nothing of that over a woman.

Matthew 22:36-40King James Version (KJV)
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Love thy neighbor as thyself is one of the greatest commandments. In doing this leaves no power (or whatever it is that would make you upset), over that of a woman. God is love, thus love is what we must do. Remember the tongue is the wickedest part of man. It is used to ridicule and mock the word of God, and for some turns them away. What is said by one, is not so much what God will judge them on, but what is said and how it influences another. If someone with the use of the tongue turns another away from Jesus, this is what that person is judged on. If one turns another towards Jesus, a multitude of sins is covered, and their is no greater reward.

"Love thy neighbor as thyself."

 

Your like a child to his father. Tell me, what book can you read that was not written by man? And what book written by man holds truth? From your previous remark I would assume your answer here would be mathematics. Can a mathematical equation tell you about history? Where do you get your truth? Who do you put as authority or truth? World governments, kings, queens, scientists, archeologists.............Who?

 

Yes I know, it is written in you!!!

 

Yup. Over a billion years of evolution and 200,000+ years of homo sapiens has managed to come up with a pretty good consensus on a set of rules, behaviors, and standards that are conducive to a healthy society.

 

No it isn't. We discover what harms ourselves and others by looking at and experiencing reality.

 

Not sure what your argument here is? Earth is a greenhouse it's very obvious. Maybe if you took your lips off the boots of those who walk on you, you might see that. Then again, their ability, knowledge, and skill of physcological warfare (art of war), is far superior than yours (none). The elite are nothing more than men who want to be king of the jungle. They will tell you anything and do anything to get it, (politicians prove this), and they have. And you obey like a good little girl/boy. If the elite was to read this, they would acknowledge that I am at least on to something (seeking truth), you they would merely laugh at, pleased by your obedience.

 

Satan didn't flood the world and kill all things but that on an ark.

 

Sorry to snip out most of your anti-women verses mate, but they're Old Testament and are therefore Old Hat and don't count any more (I hope you're not an oldtime fire and brimstone fundy)..

As for this verse and others like it which you quoted from the New T-
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2: 11-15),
Paul said it, but in context he was simply telling some over-talkative women in the early churches to shut their traps and stop disrupting proceedings by treating the place as a coffee drop-in centre..
He had no beef at all with other women and paid them these glowing tributes-
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea..she has been a great help to many people, including me..
Greet Priscilla , my fellow worker in Christ Jesus, she risked her life for me.
Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you..
Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa and Persis, those women who work hard in the Lord.
Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.
Greet Julia.." (Romans ch 16)
And he reminds us- "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )

Church of England women clergy

 

Seems like you didn't read your own post in front of a mirror, like I suggested.

Here, try again, theist:

Do tell? Do you see an issue with applying your own claim to yourself?

 

All your doing is fulfilling prophecy! It's happening right now in various parts of the world, where Christians are being killed merely for Jesus names' sake (simply being a Christian). This will happen everywhere in the world as it is written. People like you will come to a point where you will not feel bad killing all the Christians. It will be just fine with you to do this, if it's not already. This is written, and your helping to fulfill it.

 

What escapes you are the inconsistencies. Isn't god the same perfection or not. It appears he changes as man changes. I wonder what that says.

 

Early humans in the Old T were basically primitive so God had to talk tough to them and slap them around a little to get their respect, but when he thought they were advanced enough he sent Jesus to give the human race the New.T..
"The law brought us to Christ like a schoolmaster,but now through Christ we are not under that schoolmaster" (Gal 3:22-25)
Likewise, when Riker joined Klingon vessel Pagh on an exchange visit he had to punch and throw stroppy Klag across the bridge to get the attention and respect of him and the rest of the crew..

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You said most, if not all, greenhouses are round.
I showed you, they are not. Some are, some are not. The shape isn't a factor.

 

No, I said most if not all greenhouses have a flat surface for the plant life, and a strong dome like structure above them. But the reason the surface area is flat for the plant life, is because water does not stick to a ball. Can you picture a greenhouse in a perfectly spherical shape? While still distributing water equally to all plants? It's ok go ahead and say it, "only on earth", I know!

So if the earth is found to be on average "flat", what then would you say, and how would you hold those in high places (high counsel and government) afterwards? Would you find it disturbing if our president elect (Donald J Trump), thought the earth to be flat? Would you find it even more disturbing if he sent a rocket up to prove one way or the other, even though it is said to already be proven? What is going on? UH-OH!!!!

 

There is no evidence for life beyond 200,000+ years. Your scientists have lead you astray with systematic ease. But please continue.

 

You're just making an excuse. It is never ok to sanction rape, genocide and slavery.

 

You know a planter isn't flat, it has depth. You know water is absorbed into the ground. No matter the shape of the ground. Water doesn't have to stick to a ball. Just soil. LOL.
Ever see foliage growing out the side of mountains?

I also showed you a greenhouse does not have to be a dome. They can be built with 4 vertical walls and a standard roof.
Looks like your ploy at flat earth fails again.

 

The foundation of any structure must be flat and level, unless of course your ok with it falling.