"Let Me Tell You Who Obama Pardoned" Trump Destroys Reporter Over Joe Arpaio Pardon

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eye for an eye type thinking, is what has gotten us where we're at.


    YOU implied(imply regularly I'll add) this was only a RW practice, especially on this board.
     
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    He refused to arrest a person who raped a Mexican. But you are correct. It is only my view. Did he arrest any citizens and treat them like ****?
     
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    I am not familiar with that case. One thing I like about him is that part of the prison is an animal rescue. Sure, the animals live in better conditions than the prisoners, but they didn't do anything wrong.
     
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    Maybe he fed some of 'em to the animals.
     
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    It is
     
  6. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is also the practice of the LW.

    There, all realistic & such.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your name calling and raging just proved my point. We'll see how that type of ranting improves Democrat chances. As of now....it's all they've got!
     
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    What an excellent read on Kasich!

    Surprise: John Kasich Proposes Bailout for Obamacare

    For the son of a mailman, the check is always in the mail.

    On Thursday morning, governors John Kasich (R-OH) and John Hickenlooper (D-CO) released a plan to “stabilize” Obamacare insurance markets. John Kasich Doesn't Want to Repeal Obamacare

    It's worth repeating that, as recently as three years ago, Kasich said the following regarding the health care law: "From Day One, and up until today and into tomorrow, I do not support Obamacare. I never have, and I believe it should be repealed."

    Oh, how times have changed. The governors' plan would not only not repeal Obamacare, it would further entrench the law, by giving tens of billions, and more likely hundreds of billions, of new taxpayer funds to wealthy insurance companies.

    Governors Want Trump to Violate the Constitution

    The plan calls on the Trump administration to "commit to making cost-sharing reduction payments." But the United States has an interesting document--you may have heard of it--called the Constitution. That Constitution places the "power of the purse" with Congress, not the executive.

    If Congress does appropriate funds--for cost-sharing reductions or anything else--the executive cannot refuse to spend that money, per a prior Supreme Court ruling. But if Congress does not appropriate funds, the executive cannot spend money. To do otherwise would violate a criminal statute.

    Asking the Trump administration to violate the Constitution may seem like a natural request to someone like Kasich, a big-government liberal who ran into legal trouble for expanding his state’s Medicaid program unilaterally. But our nation is a government of laws, not men, which makes obeying the law an obligation of all citizens, let alone the chief executive.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I shifted to Kasich, the candidates were loosing a lot of support as Trump gained. I was down to the bottom of the barrel. When it came time in November to vote for her or him, I voted for him.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Discussions normally should be based on facts. The rant is mere name calling. no proof to support the name calling is offered. It is a losers argument.

    So you nailed it.
     
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    The butthurtness is on the Trump supporter...
    This white thug with a badge cost the tax payer well over a 100 million in damages.
     
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    The lawsuits I speak of are lawsuits that thug with a badge lost.
    He cost the taxpayer well over a 100 million.
    Almost 60 million from just his racist profiling.
    There is nothing "casual" about these numbers.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-costs-maricopa-county-another-400k/99712036/
     
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    Sheriff Joe is the worst kind of human garbage and there was a whole lot of people who he abused rather than protected. Have you read up at all on what this guy did ?

    Outing the crimes committed by our Gov't is Patriotic .. not traitorous.
    Upholding the rule of law - innocent until proven guilty - and the Geneva convention is Patriotic .. not traitorous.
    Rounding up innocent civilians and torturing them is, and should be a crime.
     
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    Those expenses are nothing compared to the welfare, Medicaid, criminal court, and imprisonment costs of tolerating illicit immigration.

    We've got so much "patriotism" going on right now that our government can't get anything done. Meanwhile, our jobs continue to get exported and our international rep is tarnished by people too immature to understand reality and the consequences of training up people to lack responsibility for themselves and follow the law.
     
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    Sorry, I haven't read up on everything Sheriff Joe did. Can you enlighten me, please.
     
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    Well over a 100 million is massive when these are damages a cop lost in a courts of law by being an utter failure to uphold the law he swore to do otherwise. I seriously doubt an other racist thug with a badge comes anywhere close to this.
     
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    How about look it up on wikipedia in order to take part of this debate?
     
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    He is even worse than those who are decapitating innocent individuals, and murdering children as birthday parties, simply to send a message to others? Is that what you are going on record as stating to be fact?
     
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    It is not just the expenses .. it is that this guy was abusing the power vested in him by the state against citizens and doing and tolerating very nasty things being done to citizens. This is not about tolerating illegal immigration.
    You are conflating the two.

    The dude that was not following the law as Arpaio and those that served under him. The worst crime one can commit these days is to point out when police are not following the law. This is not viewed by far too many as "unpatriotic".

    Our international rep is tarnished by the US acting like a police state.

    Good luck stopping jobs from being exported and Oligopolies bastardizing the free market economy when both Red and Blue Establishment are puppets of the Establishment Oligarchs.
     
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    The dude was in charge of a reign of terror and there is a litany of offenses including crimes against humanity.

    Here is an example of putting a paraplegic in jail for a gram of pot and then torturing the guy for asking for the means to be able urinate.
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/jailers-show-a-paraplegic-whos-boss-6445591

    There is just one of way too many examples. The guy was targeting brown people (not just illegals ... citizens) with gestapo like tactics.
    He has been cited for cruel and inhumane treatment by groups such as amnesty international and others. In a period of 3 years he was the target of 2150 Lawsuits with more than 50 million in claims. 50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.

    43 million in claims were paid out for wrongful death lawsuits.

    "Brian Crenshaw was a legally blind and mentally disabled inmate who suffered fatal injuries while being held in Maricopa County Jail for shoplifting. The injuries that led to his death were initially blamed on a fall from his bunk but were later discovered to have been the result of a brutal beating by jail guards on March 7, 2003"

    It just goes on and on. 2150 lawsuits. I do not have much sympathy for hard core criminals but a blind man shoplifting ? ... a paraplegic with a gram of pot ?

    The guy was using his power to go after political opponents. This is one of a number of examples.

    "In July 2004, The Phoenix New Times published Arpaio's home address in the context of a story about his real estate dealings. In October, 2007, a Maricopa County special prosecutor served Village Voice Media, the Phoenix New Times' corporate parent, with a subpoena ordering it to produce "all documents" related to the original real estate article, as well as the IP addresses of all visitors to the Phoenix New Times website since January 1, 2004. The Phoenix New Times then published the contents of the subpoena on October 18.[86] Phoenix New Times editors Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin were arrested and jailed by Maricopa Sheriff's Deputies on misdemeanor charges of revealing grand jury secrets after the publication of the subpoena.[87] On the following day, the county attorney dropped the case and fired the special prosecutor.[88][89] In a subsequent lawsuit, Lacey and Larkin won $3.75 million in damages for false arrest"


    This guy should be doing serious jail time. We are not a banana republic.
     
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    I did not say he was worse. Your nonsensical comparison is just that..nonsense. Pol Pot being worse than Stalin does not make Stalin a good guy.

    Arpaio was the ring leader of thugs that engaged in many human rights abuses and cause many deaths. He was a corrupt despot that regularly abused his power. A few examples are given in post 345.
     
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    You stated outright that Joe Arpaio is the worst kind of human garbage. One cannot be the worst, unless they are actually worse than anyone else that would be up for comparison.

    Such has been the norm for law enforcement officers, either on the state of federal level, for many decades. The overly enthusiastic officers responsible for Waco and Ruby Ridge spring to mind for example.
     

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