Liberals demand more gun control after shootings

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Notice I said coverage. Reading is fundamental. Lol
     
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    How many used it?
     
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    Coverage. Everyone that wanted to.

    I accept your apology
     
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    I have no problem at al with parents being upset when kids get slaughtered at a school what I wish is that they would demand actual working solutions instead of this knee jerk gun ban lunacy which not only won't prevent such tragedies but bears the possibilty of making them worse.
     
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    What is the gop plan to reduce gun deaths?
     
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    Simple.
    Liberals seek a state monopoly on force, which cannot happen so long as the citizenry remains armed.
    Mass shootings give them bodies to stand on while they preach the evils of the private ownership of firearms and push for restrictions on same.
     
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    Conservatives do nothing after a mass shooting....oh wait.....

    thoughts and prayers
     
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    To be fair, one is significantly cheaper than the other.
     
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    Do you consider the current restrictions on arms in violation of the Second Amendment?
    I'll also throw this one to @DoctorWho and also @6Gunner, being two true gun men that I know of.
     
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    And the folk that don't want to?

    One of the things you must have forgotten about mental health is that the mentally ill don't always know they are ill and don't always want care when they do know.

    How did Cruz's coverage help?
     
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    I live in CT. We are a may issue state. Ultimately your local sheriff can decide he doesn't like you and you won't get a permit without a lengthy appeal process.

    Despite this, and our recent assault rifle restrictions, and magazine capacity restrictions, violent crime has doubled in Hartford .
     
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    So in violation of the second Amendment then?
     
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    Oh you can own them without one. You just can't buy or transport them without one.

    After newtown they changed long guns to the same standard.
     
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    The claim that stricter gun laws is a “liberal” reaction to 13 kids being murdered is a right wing fallacy. 90% of all Americans want stricter registration and enforcement of gun registration. 80% of gun owners want the same. When tis was polled after the Las Vegas murders, the government did nothing. They wouldn’t even ban bump stocks. Clearly, our government represents the NRA, not a majority of Americans.

    Americas are sick and tired of the same old arguments the gun nuts trot out after a multiple murder involving guns (when doesn’t it?). They don’t bare repeating. The NRA and gun nuts have finally overplayed their hand. This one doesn’t go away.

    Now Republicans are scrambling, yes scrambling to contain the damage by racing to be in favor of stricter gun registration. Too bad. It is unlikely that 90% will think that goes far enough. The kids won’t. If 90% of Americans are “liberal” you guys on the right have a real problem you richly deserve.
     
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    Actually, the NRA came out in favour of banning bump stocks after Las Vegas. Some states have banned them, but I don't understand why it wasn't a federal law. Also, why would the government want to represent the NRA? What's in it for them?
     
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    Perhaps then.....you could enlighten us with your solution so we can fix this problem? We would all appreciate you saving children and preventing the next incident, you mau wish to enjoy this first:
     
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    If you have to ask you really haven't thought much about. Among the better suggestions have been armed guards, select staff member to be trained and Armed, better perimeter security, and that's just off the top of my head.
     
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    Let me see the Republican solution has been three strikes laws and shall issue concealed carry laws, I has reduced homicides drastically since the nineties. I has similarly reduced other crimes as well.
     
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    Those are unworkable and ineffective measures. and I HAVE thought deeply about this issue. Thus my critical thinking ended up at the usual endpoint, and reached the actual cause of these shootings and why they are so horrendously extreme. It is not just guns, not just insanity, not just security as these are mere pieces of a nasty puzzle and will not lessen mass killings they will help however if addressed.
    The ONE(1) commonality we see and the biggest reason for the quantity of dead people in warfare as well as school shootings is the capability of the weapons. In both cases this is EXACTLY what these weapons are designed to do.
     
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    I support legislation that makes illegal the ownership of any weapon capable of firing more than once per second.
     
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    Wrong. The one thing they all have in common is that big sign on the front door that reads no guns allowed. The worst school shooting in history was virginia Tech 32 dead weapon in Use pistols. In fact pistols are far more commonly used in mass shooting than are so called assault rifles.
     
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    There is a goofy and unworkable solution. BTW it’s already against the law to murder someone, hows that working out?
     
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    I see...so your solution is to arm Mrs. Thompson in history class, Kevin the security guard, Butch the linebacker, Karen the cheerleader and hire another thousand cops to hang around in schools waiting for a shooter to announce he is gonna kill kids?
    You do know that there was armed security in this last shooting right? I suppose you also have your own guns secured in a safe as a responsible owner? do you think the guy breaking into your home is gonna wait until you open it and load before raping your wife and stealing your freakin' TV?
     
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    What part of the word staff did you fail to comprehend. What part of the word train did you not get? If Kevin the security guard, and Joe the security guard, and Frank the ex marine and football coach are armed along with the principle and vice principle you don't need a thousand cops. And I'd replace that stupid no guns allowed signed on the front door that reads No guns allowed with one that reads. We are armed to the teeth. And the security needs to be patrolling and some security cameras covering entrances. that may be accessed by the guards cell phones and alerts them when someone tries to enter the building at non standard times. Any of these are more effective than gun laws. In combination they should at least serve to reduce the number of victims substantially.
     

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