Libs, who is the greater threat to America?

What are Republicans constantly attacking except unworkable Progressive hairbrained schemes and efforts to eliminate Conservatism or to co-opt the poor and immigrants, illegal or otherwise to vote Democrack!?

 

I see it as organic; an ever changing life cycle. At present, I see no real threat to that. Whilst certain factors may mean a change in the way of living, I don't think there is any "final outcome" from any "current actions" to be particularly concerned about. Maybe I'm wearing blinkers... if so I'm happy to do so for now.

 

Neither. Plutocrats are the biggest threat to us -- particularly the ones on Wall Street.

An actual conservative wouldn't use the state to favor business over the common man, but unfortunately, many people who call themselves conservative do exactly that.

As for jihadists, their threat to society is vastly overstated.

 

They're attacking the environment, women's rights, gay rights, worker's rights, separation of church and state, voting rights, etc.

 

When issues are being decided those who have no interest in the matter, sources to help enlighten us on the matter or no talent to see what others are able to perceive as dangerous or threatening should refrain from pronoucing the lack of a threat or else the results will partially be your responsibility.

 

Only those who are uninformed as to the real strength of violent AND non-violent Jihad would say that.

How many nations have to break out in riots, how many skirmishes and local flash points have to erupt, how many governments have to topple before you wake the f*** up?

You're sleeping at your post and spreading dangerously negligent advice why? Because of what you posted in the past? Don't just cover your ass, constantly re-examine your position. Always try to see what you might have missed the first time. You need to re-assess your take on Jihad because you are mistaken about it's effectiveness and because some people might listen to your advice and take it to be accurate, it is your responsibility to make sure it is.

Yours isn't.

Might want to fix that.

 

So far, jihadists have been unable to cause any worldwide recessions.

None of them have the power to mount conventional wars for resources either.

 

No, the Conservatives are preventing Progressives from skewing scentific data to support their hare-brained ideas about the environment.

They are protesting the murder of babies.

The Conservatives protest that birth control measures are (and should be) a PERSONAL responsibility, not the government's nor taxpayer's.

They are protesting calling Gay unions, "marriage."

I don't know what you'd say the Conservatives are doing to attack worker's rights.

Conservatives are just trying to hold the same standards of Church - State as have always been observed in this nation. Progressives are the ones trying to change everything.

And if someone collects any benefits from the government they must have an accepted I.D. Anyone wanting to vote must produce their I.D. or they should not be allowed to vote. Who's going to object to that provision to help make our elections more fair and honest?

 

Well, just for the record...

An argument can be made that we still don't know for sure that Obama ISN'T performing the greatest act of Jihad in the history of Islam.

I'm just sayin...

 

I would say the interests of the great majority of the very rich, which are becoming more and more opposed to the interests of the USA as a whole, are the greatest threat to America. This is choking our democracy, unbalancing our politics, destroying our middle class and trade balance, putting the value of the US Dollar in danger and helping to run up the federal deficit.

Since I think that Islamofacists are also a looming major challenge to the security of the West as a whole and the USA in particular, this ought to indicate the level of trouble this issue poses to both the short and long-term interests of America.

 

http://m.clarionproject.org/analysis/popular-muslim-iman-working-towards-sharia-america

 

I think you mistake my view as trusting Islam and Islamism.

Jihadism is a threat, but it's a far lesser one than the people who currently run our system.

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Our foreign policy has certainly aided the rise of jihadism in many respects, but that's been happening since long before Obama.

You could say our first mistake was siding with the Saudi regime back in the early 1900s.

 

Actually, almost half (41-43%) of those that identify themselves as "Tea Party" also identify themselves as "Libertarian". And of course that is also made up of the more "radical" parts of the Republican Party, just as the "1%ers" make up the more radical parts of the Democratic Party.

So I fail to see your point here.

 

The results are all our responsibility.
We are all in this together. Even though I didn't vote for the POTUS, I respect that my peers did. I don't distance myself, but hope for change. I accept what happens as a whole and don't look to blame others if it goes wrong.

 

So, why didn't you vote for POTUS?

 

When you become very rich, then let me know what you think. But til then stick to what you know, not what you think.

 

Pardon my last post. It was unnecessarily and unintentionally rude.

 

Over the past several decades our country has become more and more liberal. Now we have all kinds of serious problems, systemic and civil. Liberalism is our countrys downfall. They are going away from our founding principles and values. That's why we have a multitude of issues. And things are mounting up to be even worse, nationally and worldwide. But hey, homos can serve openly in the military, and promiscuous women can abort their conceptions. So I guess it's worth it. Talk about the scales of justice.

 

Great post.

 

I have long said that there is almost no difference between Liberals and Conservatives. We simply have different ideas of when things should be done.

For example, look at death. Both sides want to kill people, they just can't agree on when to do it.

Liberals support abortion, but oppose Capitol Punishment.
Conservatives oppose abortion, but support Capitol Punishment.

So I guess if we could abort future murderers, then both sides would be happy.

 

I'm a GOP man.

 

What a foolish comment. That's like saying when I become a paedophile I will have the knowledge to comment on paedophiles. What I do know is that tax loopholes mean the very rich pay an average of 15% in federal taxes, that a large number of the lobby groups in Washington support their interests, that the Republicans do whatever the very rich tell them to do while the Democrats only do so part of the time (preferably the occasions when it is less obvious what they are doing.

I know that the middle class is shrinking partly because of globalisation (an issue the very rich mostly support) and because the main burden of taxation falls on them. I know that as a percentage of their income, the very rich are less charitable than the rich, and the rich are less charitable than the rest of us (and that's taking into account tax deductions and the rare Gates-like family).

I know that the following data is true:

In 2007, the share of after-tax income going to the top 1 percent hit its highest level (17.1 percent) since 1979, while the share going to the middle one-fifth of Americans shrank to its lowest level during this period (14.1 percent).

Between 1979 and 2007, average after-tax incomes for the top 1 percent rose by 281 percent after adjusting for inflation — an increase in income of $973,100 per household — compared to increases of 25 percent ($11,200 per household) for the middle fifth of households and 16 percent ($2,400 per household) for the bottom fifth.

If all groups’ after-tax incomes had grown at the same percentage rate over the 1979-2007 period, middle-income households would have received an additional $13,042 in 2007 and families in the bottom fifth would have received an additional $6,010.

In 2007, the average household in the top 1 percent had an income of $1.3 million, up $88,800 just from the prior year; this $88,800 gain is well above the total 2007 income of the average middle-income household ($55,300).

And for those who like pictures, a link to a slide show:

http://www.slate.com/slideshows/new...ures-a-visual-guide-to-income-inequality.html

 

The GOP had a nominee to vote for in 2012. So, are you saying you didn't vote for THE CURRENT POTUS but that you DID vote for someone to be elected POTUS?

 

I'll grant you your little conceit so as not to get us bogged down in an interminable debate about what statistics do and do not reveal about the way all rich people think.

Your initial stepping off point is that the rich are the greater threat to America than, as the poll options asks, Islamic Jihadists.

Let's see you defend that.

The rich are kept in line by our laws and law enforcement and Dept. of Justice and, ultimately, depend on our system of government to do it's job to maintain order and the status quo.

Islamic Jihadists break the law as they see fit and often kill people who do not agree with their view of Islam and it's place/role in American society. Their ultimate goal is to supersede and replace our laws and our government and our way of life with Shariah Law and a Grand Caliphate which would not answer to our laws or DOJ.

And until they reach that goal Islamic Jihadists are ALSO making use of our legal and justice system to infiltrate and insinuate themselves into American life so as to eventually achieve their victory.

Now, do you want to re-think and revise your answer as to which group poses the greatest threat to America?

 

Hehe, yes - I *DO* use my vote. Sorry I wasn't clear