Lies about the Talmud

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  1. Flare

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    Yeah, I guessed you would get angry about that... because Jews don't like it when confronted with the Truth.


    And what did you say? He "betrayed" his own people?

    So you would rather have him keep his mouth shut for ALL the damage inflicted by the Jews on the world with setting up the World Wars and meddling in other nations affairs? Killing tens of millions in Russia by subverting the nation to communism?

    You would rather have seen that swept under the carpet?

    Have a good listen to this very honorable Jew, as you could learn some lessons from him here:

    [video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ben freedman was a lying sack of (*)(*)(*)(*), who gave no evidence for any of his baseless lies.

    you only believe his baseless & unsupprted lies because they confirm your preconceived notions of truth about the Jews

    funny how folks demand evidence about gas chambers, millions murdered, but then believe without hesitation, such self-hating idiots.
     
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    Lol, everything he says can be fact-checked and it is all true.

    Even this highly respected Jew Rabbi admits all the wrongdoings of the Jews, being responsible for tens of millions of deaths prior to and during WW II and why Hitler got angry at them:

    [video=youtube;2BzfDIoSjyE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BzfDIoSjyE[/video]

    You also want to call him a liar?

    It's time you start to get honest about history Ronstar, in stead of constantly playing the victim-card.
     
  4. Ronstar

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    oh, this pig is a very special pig.

    he blames the Holocaust and anti-Semitism on secular Jews.

    he think if it wasn't for secular Jews, anti-Semitism wouldn't have existed.

    he thinks if all Jews remained kosher, dressed different, didn't mingle with non-Jews, everything would have been fine.


    this man is a special kind of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). And a liar too.

    Ive met these people before. They are delusional pigs, trying to make believe that bigots would love the Jews if they just avoided ham and wore a kipa and prayed every Friday.

    what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot.

    bigots hate Jews, no matter what they do or say or think or look like.


    do the Orthodox Jews of NY get LESS bigotry, than secular Jews?

    NO!!! they suffer from it much more.



    like I said, this idiot in Israel, has an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)'s mentality, who creates fantasies in order to attack folks who don't believe as he does.
     
  5. Ronstar

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    to add to above, its delusional to think that Orthodox Jews don't suffer from bigotry.

    they are much more indentifiable than secular Jews, so they are much easier targets.

    the Nazis knew very well that Orthodox Jews didn't marry Germans, or take part in larger German society.

    ....but he still targeted them and murdered them.

    so much for this silly fantasy that being an Orthodox Jew saves you from being a victim.
     
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    Wow, what an aggressive response. Can't you just debate on a normal manner, or do you always start yelling when the Truth comes to close?

    That Rabbi isn't a 'pig', he is actually very well respected in Israël, as is confirmed by famous Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi:

    (@ 01:45)

    [video=youtube;C2utUSJM-50]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2utUSJM-50[/video]
     
  7. Ronstar

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    sure he is.

    that Rabbi is a pig, blaiming the Holocaust and anti-Semitism on secular Jews.

    just cause we don't pray every friday/saturday and eat bacon, doesn't mean they have the right to blame the Holocaust on us.

    only a pig, such as this rabbi, engages in such commentary.
     
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    Well, Rabbi Mizrachi confirms he is a well-respected and brilliant Rabbi as well, and I'll take his word above the foul language you display.
     
  9. Ronstar

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    never heard of this bigoted pig.


    let him go to Brooklyn and find out how loved the Orthodox Jews are, compared to secular Jews who are much more open minded.
     
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    The Zionists huh?
     
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    [video=youtube;jTvE3inFOgE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvE3inFOgE[/video]
     
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    What a load of tripe. Read Russian history. Jews had little to do with the Revolution and millions of Jews had left Russia long before. . Hitler tells you himself he hated the Jews because they had too much power. Read some of his early letters. His book is one of antisemetism - not facts.
     
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    Communists were committed internationalists who rejected nationalist and ethnic pride.

    suggesting that committed Zionists would also be committed Communists, is pretty silly.
     
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    He just gave you proof to the contrary, that looks like the same dissonant methods you used in support of the state in the 911 threads.
     
  16. Ronstar

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    he gave no such proof
     
  17. Kokomojojo

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    Well then, here are your alleged lies from the internet, so lets review them tractate by tractate explain how you think each one should be interpreted and why the standing interpretation is wrong, not one or two ALL OF THEM line item by line item:



    Some Teachings of The Jewish Talmud

    The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.

    Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

    Moed Kattan 17a. If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

    Jews are Divine:

    Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

    It's O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews:

    Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

    Jews Have Superior Legal Status:

    Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite ... the payment is to be in full."

    Jews May Steal from Non-Jews:

    Baba Mezia 24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

    Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean ... "

    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews:

    Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.

    Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

    Jews May Lie to Non-Jews:

    Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

    Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human:

    Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.

    Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b. Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
    Insults Against The Blessed Virgin Mary

    Sanhedrin 106a. Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."

    Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition of minim).

    Christian Book Burning

    Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.

    Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

    Dr. Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. "Jewish History, Jewish Religion," Pluto Press, p. 21).

    Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

    Gittin 69a. To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.

    Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

    Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

    Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

    Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

    Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

    Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

    Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

    Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.

    Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

    Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

    Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.

    Tales of a Roman Holocaust

    Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

    (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).


    A Revealing Admission

    Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews
    Pharisaic Rituals

    Erubin 21b (p. 150). "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands."

    "It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your hands?"

    "What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].

    A Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman

    Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates). Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie: "The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

    "They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans. "He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

    Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

    It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

    In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding discussion is actually about Christ (the lad who 'uncovered his head'). The reference to the lad's mother is of course to the mother of Jesus, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in Talmud).

    Genocide Advocated by The Talmud

    Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed").

    This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).

    This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].

    Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press of June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

    On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Khazar from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").

    Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against 'goyim,' a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

    Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

    Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

    My bet is you will not show us any and if you do it will be one or two which may prove one or two to be incorrect while evading the rest that are correct, the same tactics used in the 911 arguments. So show us all these LIES you claim people are making about the Talmud.


    and without posting naked denials or outright lies please

    Naked denial means a post where you have zero supporting evidence
     
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    all of these bigoted accusations, have been debunked here:

    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/
     
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    So you give us a page of Gish-Gallop that does not address any of the tractates posted above.

    REVIEW means: to cite any tractate above like this:

    Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).


    Then cite here_____________________________________________ what you think it means and why the standing interpretation is not to your satisfaction.

    That is how issues are reviewed NOT giving us a link to the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing internet that does not address the very statements you claim are lies.

    Thats ok though if you cant defend your claims, its nothing new for me :roll:
     
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    Sanhedrin 55b doesn't say this
     
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    No I'm not. But you are welcome to believe antisemetic propaganda if you wish.
     
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    so you want everyone to believe none of those well known jewish tyrants are jews is that it? :roll:
     
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    i thought the accusation was that they were Zionists.

    now its that they were Jews?

    make up your mind
     
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    The title of the Video ?

    Today there is much confusion among Jews over the meaning of the term Zionism. It means different things to different people.

    The reason for this is that historically, Zionism has been a movement dominated by secularist Jews. Herzl and most of his colleagues were assimilated Jews, who did not believe in or practice the Torah. Some Zionists were vehemently anti-religious, and saw the Torah and mitzvos as outdated rituals with no place in their modern state.

    They are Ethnic Jews - not practising Jews. They would have done just the same if they had been of other nations.

    Rather like Christianity. Many call themselves Christians but actually have no belief in god, and practice no christianity.
     
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    none of these Jews were Zionists.

    they were committed Internationalists.
     

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