Linda Tripp Reopens Vince Foster, Filegate, Travelgate, Whitewater Scandals

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you denying there was a conspiracy between Clinton and Lewinsky to commit perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court? That there was a conspiracy to smear Lewinsky if she did not go along with the plot?

    Feel free to try and refute anything I have posted but do so without all the hyperbole and TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.
     
  2. Frank

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    Are you saying you have proof positive...

    ...or are you doing your usual shooting off at the mouth?
     
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    Vince Fosters Office WAS Looted.Secret Service agent Henry O'Neil
    watched as Hillary's Chief od Staff,Margaret Williams carried boxes of
    papers out of Foster's office.However the Park Police managed to arrive
    in the nick of time and seal off the Office.
    Vince Foster had a safe which initially was denied by the Clinton staff.
    Craig Livingstone was reported by another agent as removing items from
    Foster's office in violation of that Police seal.
    Livingstone also was the one who officially identified Foster's body but not
    until 10 pm.
    3 witnesses recounted how Patsy Thomason { Dir. of the White House
    Office of Adm. } seemed desperate in trying to find the combination to
    Vince Foster's safe { which was being denied as existing }.
    With the help of MIG technical team,Ms.Thomason finnaly opened the
    safe.Two envelopes were reported to be In that safe,according to Foster's
    Secretary,Deborah Gorah. Those 2 envelopes,addressed to Janet Reno
    and William Kennedy III were never seen again.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    WELL DUH YES, he was held in contempt of court for it and plea bargained the criminal charge, Lewinsky was given immunity for her cooperation.

    They plotted to submit a false affidavit into a federal court and did so. That is prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice, felonies.

    Thanks again for proving my point, the general population is clueless as to what the actual facts and issues were and have be fed this pablum about it all being about a BJ.

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    Yes I know and it was done by Clinton's staff to get those incriminating documents out of his office before the investigators could get hold of them and she hid the billing records in her private WH residency. She should have gone to jail for it.

    But did the Clinton's have him killed or did he do it at the WH and they removed the body? I don't think so.
     
  5. Frank

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    Oh, you misunderstood me. I had asked about PROOF POSITIVE.

    But apparently you are just shooting off your mouth.

    Hey, no problem. I enjoy listening to it at times.
     
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    You are very shy on facts.Vince Foster was set to resign.His position at the WH
    did not sit well with him.He had spent the morning in " busy Work " and later was
    in attendance when the WH announcement of Louis Freeh as head of the F.B.I.
    was made.Foster had written an outline for his letter of resignation { as part of the
    Fake suicide note ? } Foster had scheduled a private meeting with Bill Clinton
    for the next day { July 21,1993 } in which it appeared he was set to resign.
    The Clintons couldn't have any of that.The guy knew too much.Not just Hillary's
    business but also Bill's as President.
    BTW Rush Limbaugh was not prepared to spend too much radio time on this
    because it was WAY too complex.Limbaugh easily took the shortest path and
    admitted Foster's death to be a suicide.
     
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    " I'll be right back " Foster then walked out of his office,after offering his co-worker,
    Linda Tripp the leftover M & M from his lunch tray.
    That was last time Vince Foster was seen alive.
    Contrary to the White House spin,Vince Foster's connection to the Clinton's
    was via Hillary,not Bill.They were partners together at the Rose Law firm.
    Now comes the key part.The White House is about The most secure residence
    in the world.Equipped with sophisticated entry control systems.With video
    surveillance installed by the Mitre corp.
    YET no record exists of Vince Foster leaving the White House under his own
    power on July 20 th,1993.
    No video of him exiting the bldg.No logbook entry
    shows he checked out of the White House.
     
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    They don't care how corrupt the clintons are. They will excuse and justify any action they believe will benifit them. Leftist are generally just as dishonest and corrupt as the leaders they worship. Would you want your daughter dating a guy like Bill Clinton?
     
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    Yes he was held in contempt of court and plea bargained the criminal charge. We have Lewinsky's admittance to the plot. We have the false affidavit that was submitted. We have the Tripp tapes. Are you denying this? Do you know what prima facie evidence is? What "proof" are you looking for?

    Please refute the facts if you believe they are in error.
     
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    That changes nothing about which I spoke, he was in over his head and entangled in illegalities. He believed it was all about to be exposed and he would be charged with crimes. He took his own life. Then Hillary's staff removed the documents from his office and hide them from the investigators.

    Where is your disagreement here?
     
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    I know this is probably a bit hard to understand but the two candidates for President are Hillary and Donald and of the two actual candidates there is no question who has done more marital cheating. Republican family values people should support Hillary for standing by her husband and keeping the family intact while condemning Trump's endless philandering and cheating on his wives.
     
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    Yes I know of all that and it changes nothign about which I spoke. If you want to believe he was murdered or his body removed have at it, I disagree. He committed the act on his own and not in the WH, he would never have done that to the Clinton's.
     
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    I am not concerned about what Bill may or may not have done. You made a specific claim about Hillary Clinton purposefully attacking the females that had affairs with her husband. That has nothing to do with what the "victim" testimonials of women telling people what Bill Clinton did to them. What proof to you have that Hillary actively attacked and smeared the women publicly?

    hint proof is not because everyone is saying so.
     
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    Never stated it was anything else hence the term "Personally I think." What is not an opinion is that Trump is a proven serial liar, proven racist, proven misogynist, proven tax cheat, proven deadbeat, proven to be vindictive and proven to have and unstable temperament. If you think those are good qualities for the next President then yes my opinion stands.
     
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    You do not have a clue what conspiracy means. He did not conspire with anyone to perjure himself. That is simply not factual. He was NEVER CONVICTED OF PERJURY. The only thing he was ever cited for was contempt of court for lying about sexual dalliance that was consensual and between two legal adults. He was NEVER CONVICTED OR EVEN CHARGED with any SEXUAL ASSAULT. To say so is to LIE.

    There is NO PROOF that Hillary actively smeared anyone about having extramarital affairs with her husband. The supposed Bimbo Squad is fictitious. What is true is that there was a rapid response unit inside the BILL CLINTON campaign in 1992 that actively defended him against attacks against his record and personal life. There is no evidence that Hillary planned, completed or aided any public smearing of women that stated they affairs with her husband.

    Again to suggest any criminality about this is to LIE plain and simple. There was NEVER any criminal charges nor convictions of any sexual assault or anything closely resembling that. To say otherwise is a LIE.

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    That says everything needed to be said...what a farce.
     
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    Are you interested in getting some hidden facts revealed OR just proving
    how Right you were.I think yer a little TOO overwhelmed with yerself.
     
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    You wrote:

    When you finish with the theatrics and histrionics...and actually get to some PROOF...lemme know. Until then, I think we are dealing with a drama queen...who should be posting in the conspiracy forum.
     
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    The Clintons use Others { surrogates like Sid Blumenthal or spin doctors
    like Ann Lewis or Julien Epstein even Counsel like Lanny Davis } to do
    their dirty work.Even though Lanny Davis does not engage in smear.
    But Davis does Lie about the Clintons and finds ways to exonerate their
    corruptions },
    Hillary did have " Bimbo Eruptions ".
    James Carville was used to smear Paula Jones with :
    " drag a hundred dollars through a trailer park and there's
    no telling what you'll find ".
    Jones won her civil Harrassment lawsuit for the full amount but received no
    apology from Slick Willy.
    Slick Willy was Impeached { Impeachment process } on charges of perjury
    and obstruction of justice.The House had a 2/3 majority vote for Impeachment.
    The Senate did not. They did not reach a supermajority.The Republican controlled
    Senate had 50 votes{guilty} on the obstruction charge but only 45 on the perjury charge.
    Yet Bill Clinton WAS Impeached.Meaning he went thru the Impeachment process.
    Only the 3rd time in the Nations 222 year history had the House sought and got
    an Impeachment inquiry.
     
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    Translation: No proof Hillary publicly smeared anyone. No conviction for perjury or any other felony for either Clinton. No proof provided of said Clinton associates acting on direct orders of the Clinton's or even acting at all. A bunch of liars, serial adulterers, pedophiles, tax cheats and felons voted to impeach a President because he didn't want to publicly reveal he had an adulterous affair.

    Congratulations you just summed up the utter ridiculousness and utter futility of how the right has tried to smear the Clinton's.
     
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    I guess no one read the Washington post article yesterday about this.
     
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    So then if what you say is true then why did Slick Willy settle the Paula Jones
    Harassment lawsuit.I mean if he was Mr.Snow White and never HARASSED or
    Badgered a Female.Why was his Arkansas Law License revoked or suspended for
    5 years if he was not guilty of anything.Slick was guilty.Of Lying about an Affair.
    In a court of Law he Lied.
    Bill Clinton LIED as big a lie as ever told by any Poltician in the Paula Jones
    Deposition On Jan. 17th 1998 when he Denied having " Sexual Relations " with
    Monica Lewinsky.A Flat out bald-face L-I-E ! Slick Willy then,like the desperate cornered
    rat he was born to be,decided to parse the court's interpretation of what constitutes
    a " sexual relation ".
    He then was asked again in Ken Starr's Grand Jury on Aug. 17th 1998
    about alleged perjury in his Jones Deposition.His answer to Starr's Grand Jury about
    whether he perjured himself in a previous Deposition produced new examples of
    his LYING to protect himself.This was enough to gather support in Congress for
    his Impeachment Inquiry and vote.
     
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    Again what if any of this, even if true, has to do with Hillary. Are you now advocating that wives and husbands should be held responsible for each others behaviors? Where does it stop. Are Fathers liable for their son's behavior? Are daughter's liable for their mother's behavior? Are we now going to reduce 801 years of jurisprudence because someone said something Trump doesn't like?

    Uneffinbelievable...
     
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    What are you some kind of Nut.How many of Bill's female victims wrote
    books explaining precisely how and when Hillary managed to intimidate,
    Harass further { *Kathleen Willey } and use those in the Clinton camp to
    spread rumors and rotten smears on any woman daring to suggest what
    a sexual predator Slick Willy was.

    * Book
    - TARGET : Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton - 2007
    Newly released details of the intimidation campaign unleashed by
    the Clintons and their surrogates to Silence Kathleen Willey.
    New insights into the death of her husband on the same day Bill
    Clinton assaulted her in the Oval office.How her home was burglarized.
    No jewelry or valuables.Just her manuscripts and written material.
     
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    Kathleen Willey's Book { Target } explains a lot.
    As if Linda Tripp didn't.Or Paula Jones,Juanita Broaddrick.
    Maybe Susan McDougal who sat in jail for Slick because she was
    terrified of what would happen to her { like her old fogey Husband
    James McDougal } if she answered truthfully { without Perjuring herself }
    if Bill Clinton perjured Himself.
     
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    Here's how it works.In the World of the Clinton's,one commits perjury,
    when they tell the truth. Because the Clintons live in a world of
    Lies.Therefore by one telling the God's Honest truth,that means
    every thing else heard by Clinton aides must be a Lie.So if and
    when a Court does believe a Clinton aide when they lie,it makes the
    truth teller a Liar and therefore commiting Perjury.
    Got it now.
    That's what predicament Susan McDougal was placed in.
    Now it's the place the Clinton camp feel they placed Trump in.
     

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