LIVE: First 2020 Presidential Debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I blame Trump for American deaths.

    Canada told the U.S. it was going to close the USA-Canada border with some exceptions (overland travelers to Alaska through British Columbia, train and airline crews, truckers, medical personnel, and so on). Trump didn't like the optics and quickly cut a face-saving joint agreement renewed monthly.
     
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    Sounds like Wallace and Biden don't mind Antifa burning and looting but intend to blame everyone else for these extremists burning and looting.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Quote the entire quote you are engaged in what in debating is a lie of omission.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Biden started the interrupting and breaking during Trump rebuttal in the first question. And he told this group whom he didn't know about to stand DOWN. Why was that question even asked, was Biden asked about his recent racist and bigoted statements?
     
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    Who called who a racist and a clown? Who told who to shut up? Who told who to "stop yapping"? Who said to who "come on man"? Who started the interrupting and talking over?
     
  6. TurnerAshby

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    So just switch topics and hope I dont notice?
     
  7. Curious Always

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    That was probably his most comprehensive thought of the night. Proud boys seem to be misogynist, but it's hard to pin them down on racism. They don't appear to like Muslim extremism, but most people agree with that. They seem to be a completely different style of angry people willing to use violence.
     
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    But he refused to condemn the groups behind the violence.
     
  9. Curious Always

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    He merely quoted Trump's FBI. You have an issue with how Trump is managing his FBI?
     
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    What topic would that be? It seems you're making excuses for Biden's refusal to speak out against the Antifa terrorists.
     
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    Antifa is evil and Biden can't acknowledge it.

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    Biden condemn any and all violence last night.
    Wallace, it doesn't matter his opinion, but I doubt he condones violence.
     
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    No he said “stand by”, and nobody who watched that thinks Biden was the problem lol
    He watches fox all day but hasn’t heard of the proud boys? Lmao
     
  14. Curious Always

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    So Trump's FBI is not trustworthy? Why should we trust Trump, then?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    FoxHastings said:
    A DIRECT QUOTE >>>CHECK THE VIDEO >>>>Trump told white supremists to "stand by".




    :) So YOU show the entire quote and try to show how that changes anything.....it won't :)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    OK, NOW list all the questions Trump answered directly. (Hint: There weren't any)






    :) Gee, gosh that was a short "list" ...:) ONE instance does not make a "list" ...
     
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    Biden used that obscure statement to avoid condemning an evil fascist organization. It appears you're doing the same.
     
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    Where is the Antifa Organization headquartered?
     
  19. Curious Always

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    They aren't an organization. The freakin' FBI says so.

    Do you know something the FBI doesn't know?
     
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    Who cares. They've got adherents all across our country wreaking violence and destruction. If you can't condemn that kind of evil then you've got serious issues.
     
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    Does their structure make them any less evil and any less worthy of condemnation. Their fascist philosophy is clear.
     
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    Biden has
     
  23. Curious Always

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    Except, who are they?

    Biden condemned violence in any form. Do you condemn violence of .... insert idea ideological platform here?

    Condemning all violence should be all inclusive. Why doesn't that include an ideology, that doesn't even have a membership?

    Shall I condemn all people who believe tomatoes are a rock, or should I just say a generic "anti science people are dumb?"
     
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    Yeah then why can't he call them out by name?
     
  25. TheImmortal

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    The south had legislation on their side as well as two SCOTUS decisions declaring the north and the federal governments actions to be unconstitutional. Which they willfully and intentionally ignored because the north knew the federal government wouldn’t enforce the law.

    What were they supposed to do? Take them to court for a third time?

    If you and I enter into an agreement and we both willfully sign a contract that defines our rights and responsibilities under said agreement.


    Years later I come back and say, “You know I never liked this part of our agreement because I consider it to be immoral. As such I’m no longer going to uphold that portion of our contract whether you like it or not.” You respond and say, “That’s fine. If you want to unilaterally alter our agreement without my consent then I want out of our partnership.”


    Who is the traitor? You or I?


    If I then come back and say, “No you’re not leaving our partnership and if I have to murder your men, women and children to stop you then that’s what I’m going to do.”


    Who is in right and who is in the wrong? Furthermore if placed in that position would you not fight back?
     

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