Liz Cheney Heads To The Trash Heap Of History

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  1. ButterBalls

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    LOL, I never get excited..
     
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    How would you know that, clearly denial is your greatest influence ;)
     
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    When you say you have never witnessed anything so cult like, it is not whataboutism to bring up something that is MORE cult like, and certainly not Soviet Whataboutism (lol whatever the hell that is). Being a relative statement, it is begging for an alternative example as a comparison.

    Just watch the videos. Isnt that scary and cult like?


    (142) School children sing praises to their savior Obama - YouTube
    (142) The Obama Youth - Young children singing praise to Barack Obama - YouTube
     
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    Well there you have it :nod:
     
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    Nahh, that's another affliction of those that confuse left and right daily. They are not principled conservatives.
     
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    Correct. Not once in my lifetime have I seen any thing like this with millions of adult Americans displaying textbook cult behavior. Never saw anything that comes anywhere close to it. Sorry if you don't like what you hear, but it is what it is.

    Handful of children vs millions of adult Americans, thousands of which assaulted the Capitol while wrapping themselves in flags bearing the name or face of their cult leader. Are you kidding me? You are proving my point, and I thank you for it.

    And now we have WY voters turn against someone who they held in very high regard only because she refused to lie for the cult leader.

    Yep, I never saw anything like this before.
     
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    Well at least you see it and honestly admit it's an issue on the left. Thanks for your honest good sir!
     
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    Please share what you think is the worst example of RP voter suppression.
     
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    My hunch has been that Roske was working for somebody, not sure who...
     
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    That's the way the woke gentry like it. They view the 'others' as 'uppity' for now kowtowing to them like they kowtow to Beijing. Losing Liz was part of their scheme to fix the 2024 election.
     
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    Our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class has been conducting political witch hunts including electronic surveillance against DJT for 6 years. That kind of sustained political persecution has transformed Trump into a martyr for a mass political opposition movement.

    IOW, our political bosses are not very bright. See Liz Cheney. ;-)
     
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    "Most of the RP proposals for election reform would inhibit vote fraud and election rigging,"

    LMAOROG

    In Supreme Court, GOP attorney defends voting restrictions by saying they help Republicans win
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...voting-restrictions-saying-they-help-n1259305
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    Asked by right-wing Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett to explain the Arizona GOP’s interest in upholding a state law that disqualifies ballots cast in the wrong precinct — a restriction that voting rights advocates say discriminates against people of color, an assessment backed up last year by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals — Republican lawyer Michael Carvin responded that striking down the regulation would put “us at a competitive disadvantage relative to Democrats.”

    “Politics is a zero-sum game,” Carvin added.
    https://truthout.org/articles/gop-l...-voting-rights-disadvantage-republican-party/
     
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    Be specific. What "voter restrictions"?
     
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    It's there in the post


    explain the Arizona GOP’s interest in upholding a state law that disqualifies ballots cast in the wrong precinct — a restriction that voting rights advocates say discriminates against people of color, an assessment backed up last year by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals — Republican lawyer Michael Carvin responded that striking down the regulation would put “us at a competitive disadvantage relative to Democrats.”

    “Politics is a zero-sum game,” Carvin added.


    Is one

    The GOP’s increasingly blunt argument: It needs voting restrictions to win

    A decade ago, Pennsylvania’s Republican state Senate leader and state party chairman both pointed to the state’s new voter ID law as helping their party win the presidential election in their state. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-Wis.) did the same thing in Wisconsin in both 2016 and in 2012. And after that 2012 election, former Florida Republican Party chairman Jim Greer claimed his party was indeed trying to limit early voting to suppress Democratic votes.

    “It’s done for one reason and one reason only,” Greer told the Palm Beach Post, before saying that Republicans essentially believed, “we’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us.”


    ....The next month, Georgia House Speaker David Ralston (R) said the expanded mail balloting in his state “will be extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives.”

    ...“If Republicans don’t challenge and change the U.S. election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again,” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said on Fox News on Nov. 8.



    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said much the same on Fox on Nov. 30: “If we accept this universal mail-out balloting to people who didn’t even request ballots, I don’t think Republicans will ever win another national election again.”


    That argument eventually worked its way up to the Supreme Court. In a key case, an attorney for the Arizona Republican Party, Michael Carvin, was asked why the party had an interest in things like preventing the counting of ballots cast in the wrong precinct. His reason: winning elections.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...nt-argument-it-needs-voting-restrictions-win/
     
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    5 Egregious Voter Suppression Laws from 2021
    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/5-egregious-voter-suppression-laws-2021

    Republican lawmakers have now enacted new voting restrictions in a total of 11 states — Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Montana, Utah and Wyoming.

    As we wrote in March, Republican state legislators — inspired by Trump’s baseless claims of voter fraud — have introduced hundreds of bills this year that would make it harder to vote. Based on the latest data from the Brennan Center for Justice and our own research, at least 404 voting-restriction bills have now been introduced in 48 state legislatures.1 What’s more, nearly 90 percent of them were sponsored primarily or entirely by Republicans.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republicans-have-made-it-harder-to-vote-in-11-states-so-far/
     
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    FLORIDA GOP LEADERS ADMIT VOTER SUPPRESSION WAS MOTIVE BEHIND VOTER LAWS

    The Palm Beach Post revealed this week that former Florida GOP leaders intentionally designed restrictive voter laws to limit votes from Democrats and people of color. Florida voters, as we saw in this year’s election endured long voting lines and other confusion as a result of reduced voting hours, voter purges, and voter registration restrictions pushed by Republican leaders. In this article, former GOP chairman, former Gov. Charlie Crist, and others revealed that prevention of voter fraud was not the underlying motivation behind voting restrictions; a GOP win was.

    https://www.kaporcenter.org/florida...ter-suppression-was-motive-behind-voter-laws/

    The GOP’s increasingly blunt argument: It needs voting restrictions to win

    A growing number of GOP officials have in recent weeks and months justified the voter restrictions their party is pursuing by pointing to the supposed electoral benefit. If there’s a difference between last time around and today, it’s that these ones cut considerably higher profiles.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...nt-argument-it-needs-voting-restrictions-win/

    No More Pretending: Republicans Admit Vote Restrictions Are All About Winning
    As one top GOP lawyer says, allowing for mail ballot or other reforms “puts us at a competitive disadvantage.”

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/...dmit-vote-restrictions-are-all-about-winning/
     
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    Georgia S.B. 202: A ban on food and water, plus subtle attacks on mail voting and local election officials
    Georgia S.B. 202 gained national attention by making it a crime to distribute water or snacks to voters waiting in line, a response to a practice many voter participation groups use in this state with notoriously long wait times in some elections. While the food and water provision is the most blatantly outlandish, the law contains less obvious aspects that pose serious threats. It allows any voter to come to a county clerk’s office and challenge the voter registrations of as many people as they would like. And, after an election when Black voters voted by mail at a rate higher than ever before, it makes it more difficult to vote by mail in several ways. The law also sets up a process that could be used to remove professional election officials and replace them with more partisan actors.

    Iowa Senate File 413: Criminalizing election officials for protecting voters
    Iowa helped to start a national trend of laws targeting election officials with criminal penalties for expanding voting access by enacting S.F. 413. The law imposes a number of new penalties and restrictions on election officials, including a provision that refers county election officials for criminal prosecution if they do not implement the law’s aggressive new voter-roll purge provisions.

    Montana House Bill 176: Ending a popular policy for partisan reasons
    Montana H.B. 176 eliminated Election Day registration, a popular and effective policy that Montana voters have relied on for years. During debate over the law, a Republican state representative openly stated that he wanted to end election day registration because he believed it was used by young people who were “not on our side of the aisle.”
    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/5-egregious-voter-suppression-laws-2021
     
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    Nah, the above post has a bad case of gas (lighting).
     
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    Texas GOP lawmakers admit voting restrictions are meant to secure Republican control

    A progressive activist secretly recorded Republican state lawmakers saying their voter suppression bill is meant to keep Democrats from winning elections.

    A handful of Republican state lawmakers in Texas were caught on camera saying the voter suppression bill the GOP is trying to pass in the Lone Star State is intended to keep Republicans in power.

    "We just want to make sure that Texas stays red and it doesn't become like Georgia," state Rep. Matt Krause told Windsor. President Joe Biden carried Georgia in 2020, becoming the first Democratic presidential nominee since 1992 to carry the state. Trump then tried to coerce Republican election officials in the state to "find" the exact number of votes he'd need to be declared the winner.

    State Rep. Justin Holland made similar comments, responding to Windsor's prompt, "We had to get engaged in the fight to make sure that Democrats don't take over the state, and so we just want to make sure that y'all get the election bill passed." Holland responded, "That's what we're here for. Yep... they're gonna lose seats, they're not gonna gain seats next time. They're not gonna take over. They're gonna actually erode. And so we're going to make sure we come back with more Republicans next time."

    Publicly, GOP Gov. Greg Abbott has claimed that the bill, which limits early voting, makes it harder to vote by mail, and gives more authority to poll watchers, is about "election integrity."




    https://americanindependent.com/texas-gop-lawmakers-voter-suppression-bill-democrats-elections/

     
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    Again, what voting restrictions specifically are at issue?
     
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    Are "professional election officials" non-partisan?
     
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    Please provide a specific "vote restriction" you have a problem with.
     
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    How Ould restrictions on early voting restrict minority voting?
     
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    I see that you have dropped the bogus whataboutism assertion, so I suppose that is progress.

    You dont think that millions of adults worshipped Obama in addition to what they were doing by indoctrinating those poor young school children who had no choice in the matter?

    I have never seen anything so cult-like in all my life. You clearly have a very short memory.

    As yet another example, check out all of these adults. Frightening.
    The worship of Obama (markhumphrys.com)

    ...or the Famous Jan 2009 Presidential Pledge to Obama "I pledge, to be a servant to my President"...
     
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