Looking at the REASON for punishment for killing fetus if mother wanted it

I think you're being ridiculous. Allowing a little child to be able to work so that a loving family can adopt them is not what I would call slavery.
They would still have the alternative option of the status quo.

You do realize that this it totally 100% common in the Muslim World?

 

any solution the right gives us that includes making slaves of children is not something the left will support

 

better to abort them, huh?

You're making it harder for me to buy the argument that we should allow abortion because not all of them will find loving families.

I don't think you're very interested in them being able to get loving families.

 

only some repubs want to abort the poor after they have been born

you just give these children to loving families... you do not make the loving families pay for these children

 

Of course you have the wrong end of the stick on this one....NO, no one says abortion should be allowed because not all will find loving homes.

But the fact is not all kids find loving homes.... not enough of those Anti-Choicers are that "loving"


And abortion should be legal because , despite what you think of women, they have the right to bodily autonomy.

I don't think you care what kind of life unwanted kids lead.

 

YUPPERS! I KNOW conservatives would LOVE demolishing child labor laws and going back to pre-20thy century times....they ARE regressives after all.

How old do you want them to be to start work ? TWO? Three?
Beat them if they don't work? Starve them to save money and make them submissive?

WHY should others pay ? Can't adoptive parents be RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHOICES ???

And once again , YOU did not have to respond BUT YOU DID so I guess it's on topic...

 

FreshAir said: ↑
no excuse for slavery - we can do better then that
you act like that is the only choice
how about making it a crime to sell children

NOPE SHE DID NOT.

What has that line of gibberish got to do with anything ??

Hey, how about women who were pushed into gestation even though that wasn't really what they wanted.

Why don't you care for them ??

 

I know you think it's better to just abort them.

You're arguing that there are some families who can't afford to adopt, but then saying we need abortion to do deal with that problem, because that's better than the child helping to contribute so they can be adopted into a loving family.

It seems to me you are arguing that it's better to preemptively abort them so they won't suffer or be exploited in any way.

 

no, we are saying children should be given away for free to good parents, not sold for $$$ or made into indentured servants

 

But I bet if THE WOMAN gets the money, you will be singing a totally different tune. Am I right?

You all are totally predictable.

 

I am fine with a woman or a man being helped in raising the child if they need it... you're not?

 

No it's better to not make slaves out of people...

Your idea of child labor is appalling to normal people and unnecessary and ridiculous...

Can you tell me what job a 2 year old should do?? Wait on you?

Kinda missed post 80, 81, 82 , didn't you

Hey, how about women who were pushed into gestation even though that wasn't really what they wanted.

Why don't you care for them ?