'Loser': Biden uncorks on Trump in fiery speech kicking off 2024

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Noone, Jan 6, 2024.

  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Congress cannot tell the POTUS which documents he can have. ANY document.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,259
    Likes Received:
    37,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He wasn’t potus anymore
     
  3. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The act of taking occurred when he was.
     
  4. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They used their control of technology to steal our country.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2024
  5. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,396
    Likes Received:
    12,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They used their control of the media to convince you to believe a lie.
     
  6. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The media didn't convince me. Those 51 intelligence officers did.

    Robert Epstein's study and recording of Googles ephemeral experiences has reinforced my belief.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2024
  7. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,396
    Likes Received:
    12,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What exactly do you mean?
     
  8. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They censored the Hunter Biden laptop story, and probably anything else that made Biden look bad.

    They used ephemeral experiences (which they thought couldn't be tracked) to switch votes over time.
     
  9. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,396
    Likes Received:
    12,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You will have to be specific about who “they” are and how “they” censored anything.

    And your second sentence is meaningless gibberish.
     
  10. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The FBI told social media companies to censor it. Did Twitter tell the public that we like Joe Biden, so we aren't going to allow this on our platform? No. They lied to the public in order to use their tech to censor without the public being aware they were. They called it Russian disinformation. They should have acted like honorable people, and admitted they were using their toys to be partisan.

    And ephemeral experiences (the words that pop up when you hit a keystroke, the order of search results, the next video play feature) are not gibberish. They are the most powerful thought control tools humans have ever developed. And they made them completely untraceable as they are gone in an instant, and aren't recorded in any data. They sent daily reminders to 100% of Democrats in the 2022 Georgia Senate race, to register and vote, for months. They did the same to only 30% of Republicans.

    Again, the big tech CEO's, portions of their employees, and government bureaucrats, mostly within our intelligence services, used technology to subvert our democracy, and now they are projecting onto Trump what they themselves did.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2024
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  11. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,396
    Likes Received:
    12,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So … according to you …

    1 trump’s FBI helped Biden.
    2 some private companies supported Biden
    3 some private companies encouraged Democrats to vote

    and you consider that a subversion of democracy?
    2 and 3 sound like a robust democracy in action.
    And 1 didn’t happen.
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  12. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,259
    Likes Received:
    37,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Probably why he’s not charged with taking, but with keeping and refusing to return
     
    Noone likes this.
  13. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,491
    Likes Received:
    8,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    wrong:

    18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
    prev | next
    (a)
    Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
    (b)
    For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
    (c)
    In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
    (Added Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, § 808(a), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3453; amended Pub. L. 107–273, div. B, title IV, § 4002(d)(1)(C)(i), Nov. 2, 2002, 116 Stat. 1809; Pub. L. 115–118, title II, § 202, Jan. 19, 2018, 132 Stat. 19.)
     
  14. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,800
    Likes Received:
    9,082
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is "lawfare"....what do you expect?
     
  15. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,491
    Likes Received:
    8,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "I" would expect Americans to get a hold of themselves and support our Nations institutions that have served us well for 240 years. The on going attacks against our Justice System are childish. I realize we have the most pampered and privileged jackass in history using every legal loophole he can to obfuscate his crimes. Whining and crying "unfair" every step of the way like a little baby.
    baby trump.jpg

    But it's time for for the rest of U.S. to grow the **** up, act like adults and let the "system" do it's job. ...

    ... since you asked.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2024
  16. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It wasn't Trump's FBI. They brainwashed people against Trump to the point they were willing to act as traitors. And you know my allegations are much deeper than your flippant reply suggests. Keep digging; we aren't all stupid.
     
  17. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,491
    Likes Received:
    8,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nonsense.
     
    bx4 likes this.
  18. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    7,803
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nowhere in the statute that Trump has been charged with, 18 USC 793(e), does it mention classified documents. So your appeal to classification is irrelevant.
     
    bx4 likes this.
  19. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,181
    Likes Received:
    19,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Unfortunately, Americans are defrauded no matter who gets elected. As long as Americans are at each others throats, government can continue to spend our money without having to be held accountable. As bad as Trump may be, Dems are just a bit worse.
     
  20. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,800
    Likes Received:
    9,082
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So I suppose you think your little picture adds credence to your claim.....
     
  21. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The POTUS decides what is classified. That's why it says ...has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection...

    So for example, you aren't going to find that specific Iran document in a law. So that means an EO made it classified if it ever was. Congress didn't make that specific document unauthorized. The POTUS did. And again, the Congress can't pass a law to hold the POTUS to account for his own order to his subordinates.
     
  22. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That law states: ...having unauthorized possession of...

    So let's use the fabled Iran document as an example again. We both know that specific Iran document is not mentioned in any law. So the question becomes who or what "authorizes" a person to possess that specific Iran document?
     
  23. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,491
    Likes Received:
    8,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's horseshit, first of all there's AbsaByGodLutely no ****ing way the POTUS could look at all the classified documents that are generated. Not even if he worked at it 24 hours a day and did nothing else.
    Picking one document doesn't address the scope of the classified document's Trump had in his bathroom in Florida.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2024
  24. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What law gives any human being the power to ask the former POTUS' to return a document? As in the exact title(s) of the person authorized to call him and request something and gives said person the authority to override the former POTUS's discretion, or his claim that the document being requested isn't related to national security?
     
  25. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,491
    Likes Received:
    8,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978
    :wtf:
     

Share This Page