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Macron says France doesn't recognise Crimea annexation.

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  1. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone spies on Germany. They like it I think. Their counter espionage is horrid.
     
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    Are you trying to say the title is incorrect?

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20170626/macron-says-france-will-not-recognize-russias-crimea-annexation

    "President Emmanuel Macron said Monday France refuses to recognise Russia's "annexation" of the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea."

    "The French foreign ministry said OSCE observers in Ukraine were being subjected to "unacceptable intimidation and obstacles"."

    "When Macron met Putin in May, shortly after the new French leader took office, he admitted the two had "disagreed on a number of things"."

    Seems pretty legit to me, Frances new leader Macron seems to have quite a few problems with Putin and apparently, fairly obviously, does not recognize Crimea as Russian
     
    Draco, Jun 28, 2017
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    How is this news?
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Vas is los? Really, what is it and your Turkish dreams dude? It's not happening, get over it.
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    If Putin invades there'll be an insurgency, but I doubt that will impact the russians' thinking, huge losses are acceptable as long as ultimate objectives achieved. He' need to commit 3-400 K troops, and you can be assured Nato will have a huge presence in neighboring states like romania, hungary, Poland, etc, since there'll be a hard security threat.
     
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    When it's said that they "disagreed on a number of things", it's wide open to interpretation, I.e., yelling, screaming, throwing objects? Who knows?
     
    zoom_copter66, Jun 28, 2017
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    Germany produces many things the world uses, our M1A1 turret gun on the Abrams is made by rheinmetall I understand?? No surprise everyone spies on them.
     
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    You are giving the benefit of the doubt which is fine, but I posted those three quotes because IMO they specifically go against that ideal
     
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    Who cares about Crimea? Crimea is some stupid tiny territory that voted to leave and go to Russia. It's a tiny place that smells like soup and means nothing to us. The US needs to stop doing the EU's bidding. The EU wants war with Russia, let them have it. Not our prob
     
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    Hey, careful there. My uncle been going there on yearly vacations with his wife for half of life. It has fantastic sunsets.
     
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    Nothing beats a sunset like in the Dakotas o


    Well, they actually stole it more than"voted".:))
     
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    True, then I would assume a thread like "Batman dies"? Is newsworthy?
     
    zoom_copter66, Jun 28, 2017
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    How can Crimea steal their own vote? They voted almost unanimously to leave Ukraine for the country they speak the language of in the first place...
     
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    Ok sorry ;)
     
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    We should never have supported break up of the Russian Federation.
     
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    Russia has no reason to give a damn over what France wants.
     
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    True... But the part in bold is the only one condition for Ukraine becoming a member of NATO and to be honest that can't happen without the consent of Russia. I believe Russia will never consent to its own destruction.

    True but again, in that case Russia would do anything in its power to spark the rebellion. This would further drain Ukraine down to the "destabilization" hole. And it's not cruelty of Russia or something... Ukraine's their backyard and that means it's the main risk spot for Russia's security. Therefore intruders and trespassers should be shot on sight because you can't allow strangers with unknown attitudes approaching your home.

    In the light of the above responds to your quotes, I say invasion of Ukraine is never out of the option list of Russia. Any country and any leader on this planet would consider an invasion of a country when that country's geostrategic importance is slowly turning into a threat to the rival one's own existence...
     
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    Hahahaha... Some like it that way... True..
     
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    Alaska to Russia, Hawaii to the Hawaiians and the continental USA to Indigenous Americans.

    Really, all humans should move to Ethiopia where humans first came from.

    It is funny reading people who claim no borders should ever change, or picking some moment in the near past saying THOSE are the correct borders. Borders of countries have perpetually changes and the assertion that the USA and world has a duty to insure not borders every change again is just a big military money making scheme.
     
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    I really don't think you know what you're talking about pops...

    Nemrut Dağı TÜRKİYE :

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    Looks good.
     
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    If Ukraine wants in on Nato, it's their choice not Russia's. Besides Russia's already invaded, LDPR, so it's a moot point, so this shooting an "invader" is what currently Ukraine is doing, shooting the invader from the east.
     
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    Can you prove any Russian invasion in Ukraine?

    If you can, I strongly encourage you to gather your findings to a folder, seal it, and send it here:

    405 East 42nd Street, New York, NY, 10017, USA.

    Phone: 212-963-4475

    You'll be the hero saving Ukraine from what appears to be something not more than a UFO invasion... We'll do the same to YPG/PKK in Syria soon. Then, Cyprus and Aegean.

    [​IMG]

    By the way, where's litwin when Mr. Arveladze needs him? :)
     
    goody, Jun 29, 2017
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    I asked this Ninian account a similar question, can you prove there ISNT a russian invasion, no proof or pics forthcoming, just BS talk. Cmon goodytwos , you know yourself moskali army in Ukraine, cut the crap.
     
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