Mafia or Islamic State?

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  1. AlpinLuke

    AlpinLuke Well-Known Member

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    Which organization do you fear the most?

    I'm wondering about this: the Islamic State has done a little and all EU [and Obama ...] are showing to tremble ... Mafia has been killing many persons for decades, it controls territory, politicians, police officers, judges ... but it seems that the people is more concerned about the Islamic State ...

    Poll is missing since I can suspect that someone could find it "not suitable" to declare to be concerned about Mafia. You know ...
     
  2. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    We've had over a century of the Mafia, and the average Tony has done nothing to curtail their operations. Why don't Italians condemn Mafia terror whenever it strikes?
     
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    Goomba, if there was a Mafia handbook that incited terror, would Italians work to change that book?
     
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    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Not if they knew that those who believe it incites terror are wrong in their interpretation. :D
     
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    Does the mafia have a book that says to "fight until all worship is for the mafia", just like Islam does for Allah? If not, then obviously Islam is a greater threat.
     
  6. Goomba

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    I don't know, I've never been a member of their organization.
     
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    Too bad Allahl is not actually real or he could tell us himself what the correct interpretation actually is. Bummer.

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    But you are a member of the other organization that says the same thing.
     
  8. Goomba

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    The interpretation is obvious for all.

    In your opinion.
     
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    Group like CAIR do know that ISIS has the correct interpretation, or else they would be trying to teach ISISthe right interpretation, instead of always trying to focus on deflecting criticism from Islam by the non-Muslims. CAIR seems to think that Robert Spencer is a greater threat to Islam and ISIS is!

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    Yes, that Muslims are instructed to take over the world until all worship is for Allah.
     
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    Goomba, wouldn't it be best if Allah came down and cleared all this confusion up for us? I would do that if I had his supposed superpowers. What about you?
     
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    All confusion will be cleared up on Judgement Day.
     
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    Is that a quote from Peter Pan, or from Frodo?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is THAT why they blow people up?

    So we can all meet Allah and be judged?
     
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    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Something like that.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So....what happens when we get there and he's not home?

    Are we still just dead....and what if he actually is home but we are not Muslim?
     
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    All humans will be judged, regardless of their religion (or there lack of). God is the Lord of all mankind.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That does no answer my questions, it merely begins the circle again....if you cannot answer just say so and end this futility.
     
  18. AlpinLuke

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    Because Mafia is really smart. A part its historical social roots [substantially when the Kingdom of Piedmont conquered the Kingdom of Naples to unify the peninsula in the Kingdom of Italy ... not all the Southerns were happy about this and the lack of territorial administrative structures left a wide room for hidden organization to gain a real control of the territory and a social role], usually Mafia tends to find a way to control the power, it usually doesn't contrast the state. This has happened in early 90's when the "Fighting Mafia" [Corleone, Riina] did this the state reacted in a brutal way ... but at the end the "Economical Mafia" [Provenzano and buddies] kept on managing its business, also with connection with the political environments.

    Btw ... Sicilian Mafia can do this:
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    To kill an important judge they sent to the orbit a section of a High Way ...
     
  19. AlpinLuke

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    Mafia wants to control. If you accept its domain, they don't care a nut what you worship [Mafia is socially neutral, until you don't contrast it].
     
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    Islam is 25% of the world. Of course they are the most terrible.

    The only time I was in Mafia territory was in the toe of Italy in Reggio Calabria touring Europe on my own. It wasn't listed in the tourist books, and I found the place to be almost deserted and nothing to do, and an even greater waste of time than my stay in Salerno.

    After that I only visited important places in West Europe.
     
  22. Sane Centrist

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    I think it's completely fair to say that the lovely folks otherwise known as "La Cosa Nostra" from Palermo Italy have killed many more people than any of these terrorists, and to add insult to injury...........................

    Check this out......... Guess who's been selling guns to the terrorist's?

    The Mafia Runs Guns for ISIS in Europe

    The mobsters have the weapons, and they’re making a killing selling them off to Islamic radicals.

    CASTEL VOLTURNO, Italy — By the time Aziz Ehsan, a 46-year-old Iraqi, was arrested near Naples on Tuesday, local anti-mafia police had already been trailing him for days to determine just why he was in the heartland of the Camorra crime syndicate’s territory. He was well known by both the French and Belgian secret services, which list him as a suspected ISIS contact. The Neapolitan cops were also aware of an international arrest warrant for him in Switzerland, where he was wanted in connection with a variety of offenses, including forgery, assault, and possession of illegal weapons.

    He was apparently just the type of person Italian authorities thought might provide a valuable clue as they work to piece together the details of the complex relationship between Jihadist fighters and Italy’s various mobs.

    But when the attacks took place in Brussels, the authorities decided it was time to move in and get him. He was arrested as he slept in a car with Italian license plates registered to a deceased man on Tuesday and is awaiting extradition to Switzerland, France, or Belgium.

    Read the rest here:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/24/inside-the-mafia-isis-connection.html
     
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    You've missed Iran. I fear their terror and look forward to their liberation from it.
     
  24. AlpinLuke

    AlpinLuke Well-Known Member

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    For accuracy Iran is a country, not an organization of some kind [the Islamic "State" pretends to be a state, actually it's a religious / political Mafia].

    P.S. even if officially US and EU are showing appeasement towards Teheran, I still consider Iran a hostile country.
     
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    Mafia is about business, if the Islamic State can offer money or drug [or oil to be sold on black market ...], Mafia will makes business with the Islamic State. No doubt.
     

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