MAGA March Brings together Trump voters, far right leaders and counter protesand counter protesters

This morning, a person walked up to me on the street and punched me directly in the throat.

Yesterday, I was in his neighborhood throwing bricks during his demonstration.

The day before that, 13 people were arrested by the FBI uncovering a plot to kidnap a governor and violently overthrow the state government...

The day before that, the president used the national guard to tear gas peaceful protesters so he could walk to St. Johns for a photo op.

The day before that James Alex Fields Jr. plowed his car into peaceful protesters in Charlottesville killing one and injuring 19.

The day before that, the presidential candidate called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists.

Etc.,... ad nauseam.

You tell me. Who initiated the violence?

These events don't exist in a bubble. Context matters. Why can't you acknowledge it?

 

Thank you for your continued admission that you cannot prove the violence surrounding the MAGA rally in question was initiated by those participating in said rally.

 

No, you provided a link to a twister account that had a video after the fact. Post a WHOLE Video link. Not in parts

 

You are terrified of this conversation.

I have no proof that MAGA people initiated violence during the MAGA march. Endless articles talking about 'skirmishes that broke out between protesters and counter-protesters'. Do I take that to mean that ONLY counter-protesters initiated violence? No... But you do.

Now why would you make that assumption given the context of the march? Given the pretext to the march? Your position is beyond absurd to ignore the context and stake your flag. Everyone can see the absurdity of what you're doing. None of this is happening in a vacuum.

 

Good of you to finally admit this - not that we didn't already know.

 

What does it take to get you to answer a question? Do you think you're "winning" this discussion?

 

-My- point has been made.
-You- want to blame Trump supporters for violence you admit you cannot prove they instigated; in doing so you negate your own position better than I ever could.

 

Odd!

Hillary conceded to Trump in a matter of days, despite the Dem votes were 3 million more than Trump's.

I guess you missed it?

 

-You- refuse to see or acknowledge the thread that ties actions together. You refuse to acknowledge any context. You are judging acts as if they exist in a vacuum- which they NEVER DO. So you run from the questions, every time.

Which position has a firmer grip on reality? The position from inside the vacuum or the position with the context? You seem plenty smart enough to know the truth; why do you retreat from any and every question I ask?

Again:

"Let me get this straight; you think every MAGA person at the "Million MAGA March" was there for a peaceful expression of their support for the loser? You honestly don't think there's an opportunist anywhere to be found in that collection of people? Really?"

Do you think the Proud Boys are there for anything other than an exploitation of volatility? Honestly, do you? Is it a bridge too far to consider that even one of those "skirmishes" was initiated by MAGA people even if it isn't specifically and directly attributed to them? Come on.

 

There you go again, trying to blame Trump supporters for violence you admit you cannot prove they instigated.

 

Why do you even bother here? You've run from every question, shut down every line of conversation, ignored the body of every post. Are you here to discuss stuff? Are you too afraid to engage beyond your own questions? Too fragile to actually answer questions? There's plenty of room to have a really interesting conversation. But if you're not willing to actually do it, then don't expect other people to do it either.

See ya out there I guess?

 

It was a video that contained the entirety of ROMA guy that exists on video. Tie your own shoes from now on.

 

That is the "whole" video. Do you have other video of MAGA ROMA guy assaulting people?

 

-I- made my point, -you- are still trying to blame Trump supporters for violence you admit you cannot prove they instigated.
Why do YOU bother?

 

I first responded to you.

 

What part is not clear to you about posting a whole video not part of one?

 

Have Biden and Harris called for BLM and Antifa to stop with their violence and attacks on innocent cities or is Harris still collecting money to bail them out of jail so they can hit the streets again.

 

If that is true that is bad but that does not implicate Biden. If RW Nazi scum beat some people up is Trump at fault.

 

Again and again you brink zero proof.

 

I didn't take the video, so that is the "whole" of the encounter that I have seen. I have seen some related videos (it is usually the same people from different angles) but nothing else with ROMA guy. But keep denying that any MAGA dude pushing and raising fists at a group of people didn't start anything, even when he is on video doing so.

 

You make a great point that there was no violence evident last weekend when people cheered the Biden victory.

I am sure that there may have been ome minor incident somewhere.

 

When you post a whole video then I will stop that.

 

That is the whole video. Prove otherwise.

 

Of course, Tim Pool is a Pro-Trump RW shill.

And, everybody knows that Pool is a RW shill.

"NOT partisan"? Give me a break.

https://abegaustad.medium.com/tim-pool-phony-liberal-67e409cd34ca

 

Of course there wasn't violence. The Right believes in freedom of speech and assembly, even for their political opponents--- unlike the intolerant radical Left. The radical Left thinks they have the right and responsibility to use violence against those they disagree with, in an attempt to silence and intimidate them.