MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

I don't know what you're trying to say, but you're supporting my point:

No one, in today's labor market, is going to hire you for a management position straight out of college -- or a few years out of college -- without either a) experience or b) higher level education in the form of a MBA.

If you know anyone who has done it, by all means share your stories.

 

What I wrote is partly antidotal but based on over 40 years of past experience of friends and relatives with those majors. My nephew got his degree in economics from West Point. He later got his MS in construction management from GA Tech. Being in the Army, his education was free. He's now a professor of military science at MIT. My sister is a CPA but liked real estate so she's now a commercial real estate broker. Another niece got her degree in finance, worked in energy trading for an oil company, got bored and joined the Air Force. The stock and commodities brokers I know have mixed back grounds. One has a CPA the other was a caterer for another broker and got lucky. For what I do, it was 6 years for an M. Arch and 3 years internship before qualifying for 36 hours of tests for licensure. You may find an advanced degree necessary for what you want to do. Education is expensive. I didn't have any debt when I finished school, many do. I wish you success in whatever you do with your degree.

 

I can go along with that.

 

Awwwww, butt hurt because of the truth ?

I went to an engineering school and graduated with a double major in Applied Math and Computer Science. I’ve used my degree every day for the last 20 years working in logistics and supply.

Silly is what Trumpettes try and sell.

 

And yet you make such silly partisan and blanket statements, not a hallmark of the well educated.

 

Still a true statement, silliness or partisanship notwithstanding.

 

Tenure is more the problem than anything else.

Start tossing some Tossers into the Private Sector, and let's see the Shake Out 15, or 20 years later, regarding positive changes to the Universities and Colleges.

Of course, without real education reform at the local level, all of this is meaningless.

More encouragement of Technical Certifications is needed.

More real world education, and job performance.

 

In fairness look at all the dumb asses they been spitting out!

 

Yeah, that's essentially what I was saying.

LOL You put it much better!

 

So is high school

 

You guys are arguing because a Newsweek reporter said that he believes that 45% of Republicans believe that universities are bad for America. The report didn't say that. It said that 45% of Republicans said they believed colleges and universities had a negative impact on the U.S. in 2016. I can see how it may be different. If you surveyed Democrats, would they say that health insurance companies have a negative impact on the US? Probably. If you asked the same people if insurance companies were bad for America, you would probably get a different answer.

Personally, I believe that getting an advanced degree was time and money well spent. But I got science degrees. If I spent 10 years and $50k getting a PhD in women's studies just to find out that it's a stupid and useless degree, then yea, I would probably say it was bad for me.

 

https://www.thecollegefix.com/these-8-conservative-college-students-were-bullied-for-their-beliefs/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-are-universities-new-study-james-barrett?amp

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2016/12/20/liberal-professors/

https://www.freedomworks.org/content/15-year-old-wisconsin-conservative-meets-bullying-teachers

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/liberal-bias-starts-long-before-college/

 

When still in high school I remember an older cousin in her third year of college had drawn the word "Alamo" in a password game and said she couldn't play it bc she'd never heard the word before.

And I think most have seen clips when reporters or talk show hosts went on campuses asking questions like "Who was the first president" or others equally as elementary, only to be given ridiculous answers like, "Um, Abraham Lincoln?" And would think they were from other countries when asked questions about the constitution and bill of rights.

High school and college educations of today have become a joke. Between cheating with smart phones in over crowded classrooms and professors not really giving a sht, it's a wonder they even learn where their dorm rooms are.

 

I don't have anywhere near 40 years of experience, but I'm experienced enough to know a lot has changed in the industry. Barely anyone ever talks about the CPA in casual conversation. It's all about the CFA now, which requires much more rigorous study. But it depends on what you want to get into (Portfolio Management, Risk, Financial Analyst, etc.).

I would say advanced degrees are good for people who haven't made it to where they want to be in a reasonable time period. There are also people who don't really have much luck in the job market and feel advanced education helps the stick out.

 

It costs too much, it takes too long, and about all a bachelor of arts degree is good for a job in the food service and hospitality industries.

 

I never said anyone gets hired straight out of college into a management position. So not sure what you’re going on about.

 

You guys always claim to be mind readers. How about listing all those RW'ers who disagree with that account? Since you're so good at mind reading, if RW'ers don't believe that account, then what do they believe? I'm really curious as to what I'm suppose to believe according to you.

 

Those aren't examples of college POLICY

 

If you know any RWingies who agree that Columbus "found" or discover the new world by accident then you list them and I will congratulate them for honesty.

 

I learned in grade school waaay back in the 1950's that Columbus was lucky and the serendipity winds were with him on a shorter route than planned. That's supposed to be a negative?

Kinda like Fleming with serendipity penicillin and Meriwether Lewis having the most excellent luck of Sacajawea joining his expedition -- he likely would have failed without her.

Anyway, WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS HERE TO STAY.

 

I might be inclined to answer you except, try as I may, I can find no correlation to your query regarding Columbus with the thread topic (see title above). Therefore I must conclude that you have nothing constructive to add to the topic other than unintentional thread derailment.

 

It debt up to their ears as these massive institutions lavish taxpayer wealth on each other. And what we are seeing these days thrown at true free-thinkers?

THE PROVOCATIONS OF CAMILLE PAGLIA:

She brings a true liberal feminist critical of the modern women’s movement that makes these otherizing cry-bullies squirm. Paglia celebrates greatness of Western civilization, which she claims resulted from a creative but violent tension between male and female—between the Apollonian male principle of order (civilization) and the Dionysian female principle of chaos (nature) withe such beauties as this:

“If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts”
“There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.”​

Well, the Campus Crybullies certainly didn't celebrate that!

Paglia, an outspoken defender of free speech, is horrified by the rise of censorship in academia—Yale even attempted to police students’ Halloween costumes.

“To questioning young people drawn to the siren song of hormones and surgery,” she writes, “I say: Stay fluid! Stay free!”

We love You Camille!

 

No, your generalization of computer science couldn't be anymore wrong. In computer science one studies the creation and derivations of algorithms, for the software track, the hardware side, you learn about electronic physics.

Yes, one can be self taught about programming.

If one were to interview for a software engineering position, you would be questioned on general knowledge of the languages and would most certainly be tested on your ability to solve problems. Note, programming languages have the same structure as natural languages, but they are context-insensitive, meaning the data they process is irrelevant.

 

MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

If so then the questionnaire was incompetently written. If the majority of republicans said that the political correctness and left wing political dogma taught in college were bad for America, I would accept the results as meaningful. I is amazing how badly some people use statistics for political reasons.

 

So you just do not understand that the topic of schooling includes teaching history and that Columbus bumping into the Americas is a historical event. I have heard the extremes such as extreme RWingees go berserk when confronted with the fact that Columbus bumped into the Carribian lslands by accident thinking he arrived off of Indian.

Why do you think we call native Americans Indians?? Is it because they are all from Cleveland or because they ride a certain motorcycle !!

I know I am getting esoteric but try to relate concepts and not get hung up in Party politics.