A bit self righteous considering we know very little what is in the best interest of the young girl. We no little about her impoverished home life. We know nothing about her married life. We know nothing about her preferences or her wishes for the future. For every horrible scenario you can imagine in your mind an equally but wonderful scenario can be created in another's mind. We don't have to live this girls life, we don't have a right to make her life worse without her consent.
So are you advocating marriage for a 11yo girl? If there is good intention on behalf of the rather old groom of "caring" for her then he can be a father figure and just care for her without "ownership" and certainly without a sexual relationship. Why marry her? It's obvious to me and unacceptable. It's child rape no less.
How many Americans are you willing to sacrifice to accomplish this? And are you willing to die yourself to see it happen? Nut up or shut up, armchair general...
How many Americans are you willing to sacrifice to accomplish this? And are you willing to die yourself to see it happen?
Total fail. Muslims use this as an excuse with others, claiming it is not in the Qur'an, however there are many, many, verses in the sunnah, some from herself, confirming her age as 6 when she was married, 9 when she was banged. Sahih Bukhari Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Islam did not even exist until the Middle Ages - post iron age and post collapse of the Roman Empire, so...
Probably such a union is approved if a girl is at least 14 or almost 15. 11 is too young for marriage even for the Muslim standard. The man failed to obtain a permission and he is going to be charged with a crime of child marriage.
lots of american hypocrisy on display here...child marriage still legal and practiced in the USA, 25 states don't even have a minimum age for marriage...in the last 15 years there have been over 200,000 marriages of children who were under the age of sexual consent http://theconversation.com/child-marriage-is-still-legal-in-the-us-88846
Bukhari was senile and in his 90s before he relayed the Hadiths.. and Muhammed had been dead 200 years. Aisha was born before the Call.
Historically Muslims NEVER married females until the onset of the Mense and that was typically late because of poor nutrition.
Boy howdy, that gals age get lower every time someone tries to use it in an argument.She must be aging in reverse...
The Iron Age ended in 539 BC in the Middle East. They were about 1300 years ahead of Northwestern (Anglo, Celtic, Gaul and Germanic) Europe, technologically speaking, whose cultures weren't considered post Iron Age until almost 800 AD. The Roman Empire collapsed in 476 AD. That's 2,557 and 1,542 years ago, respectively. The Middle (medieval) Ages started with the collapse of Rome. That makes Islam (1,396 years old at the oldest estimate) a Medieval religion no matter how you calculate it.
Bukhari spent most of his life collecting hadieths, The info is in all the books of the sunnah, not just Bukhari. And there is a lot of entries confirming her age.
There really isn't much of an argument, It is well documented she was 6 at marriage and 9 when she lost it. BTY. She was a present from Allah.
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]
Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 140; see also Number 139) Yes, Allah is a pedophile.