Man denied entry into Canada because he MIGHT speak about Homosexuals

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    http://globalnews.ca/news/1265179/anti-gay-speaker-denied-entry-into-canada/


    first please note the agenda based spin about the guy being "anti" vs simply saying that they want to stifle free speech or that he's "pro family" or "pro morality"

    nah, no media bias here


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    LaBarbera says he was released from customs just after 1 a.m. on Friday morning.

    LaBarbera’s passport was seized until he returns to customs today at noon for a decision on whether his message violates Canada’s hate propaganda law.




    yes, you read that correctly. This stems from a full-bore anti-tolerant campaign by homosexual activists who do not want him and his pro-family message to be heard. The homosexual activists want him silenced and the liberal govt is all too willing to comply.

    This is where the homosexual activists have taken us. We now have governments denying access to people because they might say some words with which they disagree.
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    I suggest that you move to Canada and work to change the system from within.
     
  3. sec

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    just curious

    do you feel that in a free nation, a person should be denied entry into the country because of their beliefs which differ from yours?
     
  4. leekohler2

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    Other countries have their own laws, ya know. Sounds like Canadians don't want foreign troublemakers in their country. That is their right.
     
  5. YouLie

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    I'm just hoping you'll stand with me and my church against these types of laws when they come to the U.S.?
     
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    >>>Quoted post deleted<<<<

    What types of laws? You already live here.
     
  7. YouLie

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    Hate speech laws
     
  8. The Mello Guy

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    Canada also has laws about other stupid views like holocause deniers
     
  9. sec

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    Did he commit a crime? This is where you need to remove yourself from your own personal agenda and ask yourself if you really want to create a "pre-crime" unit.

    First a free nation denies entry to a person because they might possibly say some words which offend homosexuals

    Next, will they imprison a poor person because they MIGHT steal from a store?

    that is the slippery slope supported by progressives and homosexual activists
     
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    the point here is that the man had done nothing but land at an airport. The homosexual activists got the govt to deny him access because they simply don't like him and thus the man was punished not for what he had already done, but for what he might do.

    We now are at the point in the progressive downward spiral where we punish people in advance of anything.
     
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    Ok, we won't have those. We have a First Amendment. You can rest easy. You can continue to hate whoever you want.
     
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    amazing you never noticed Canada didnt have free speech until they went after hate speech that you agree with
     
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    They are in that downward spiral. We're not there yet. But we will be soon. It is their hate speech laws that paved the path for this injustice.
     
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    I don't want to hate anyone. Why would you even suggest that, because I want to protect free speech from the brown shirts? We will soon be debating those very same laws.
     
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    Of course I would- the First Amendment provides for Free Speech.
     
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    No- really we will not.

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    Hmmm that is some power that the 'homosexual activists' have in Canada- they can force the government to do what they want!

    Of course there is no evidence that any such thing actually happened.
     
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    Jeffy, Google is your friend. The homosexual activists have been wee wee'd up when they heard that he was coming to Canada.

    He was denied entry not because of what he had done, but because of what he might do. In other words, punish before a "crime" is even committed. And, is stating the obvious about homosexual sex actually a "crime" ?
     
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    OK, lets' consider "hate speech" laws which frankly, are subjective. Even with that set aside, the man must break "the law" before punishment can be doled out upon them. In this case, the man was denied entry into the country because the homosexual activists don't like him.

    That is where the attention must be focused. Is this what the homosexuals really want? We will see homosexuals try and justify what happened because they want to silence this man as well. What you won't see are conservatives or libertarians take that position. Despite knowing how silly some of the statements made by homosexuals are, we do not deny them, nor do we want to deny them the right to say those things.

    Clearly, this shows just how dangerous the progressive movement is.
     
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    Good for Canada. I wish we had the same law.

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    Plenty of people get denied access to countries without breaking any laws. Our country does the exact same thing.
     
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    and what law would that be, one which punishes someone before committing a "crime"?
     
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    Trust me, LaBarbara is nuts, and pretty hateful. And we will not be debating any such laws. If the Klan can have a website and march, your church is free to hate whoever they wish. You're being far too paranoid.
     
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    Being denied entry into a country isn't a punishment.
     
  23. sec

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    You may wish to consult Obama and Holder about that

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    why is your opinion the one which should be used as the measuring stick? Do you honestly believe that a person should be punished before a crime is committed?
     
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    Pragmatic, not paranoid. The klan and my church, huh? That's the way to carry on a conversation. All about civility, aren't ya?
     
  25. leekohler2

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    Not at all. I just used an extreme as an example. The Klan says somme pretty horrible things and don't get arrested for saying them. I seriously doubt your church comes anywhere near saying the things they say. Therefore, if they can say what they want, surely your church can as well. You have nothing to worry about.

    And yes, you're being paranoid.
     

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