Man files suit, claims college let it affect their decision that he mentioned God

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  1. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that's to put it nicely.
    Here's an article: (there are many other sources)

    http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/br...e-for-discrimmination-he-mentioned-god-28528/

    A Maryland man is suing the Community College of Baltimore County (CCBC) for a first amendment violation after the school allegedly rejected him he disclosed his faith in God. The remark was made during the admissions process and then was denied enrollment, Monday’s report explain.



    Brandon Jenkins claims that during a Spring 2013 admission’s interview, a CCBC staff member asked, “What is the most important thing to you?” Jenkins answered, “My God.” (Emphasis added, The Dispatch)

    A letter from the school’s attorney, included in the lawsuit, says Jenkins’ comment about God “was not a good answer” because the school seeks people driven by a “passion in the field.”


    According to his lawsuit, filed by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), the program’s director Adrienne Doughtery later told him that his answer didn’t help his application. She noted there was also more qualified applicants.


    “This field is not the place for religion,” she allegedly said, and advised him against emphasizing religion in future applications because school patients come from various faiths.


    “We have many patients who come to us for treatment from many different religions and some who believe in nothing. If you interview in the future, you may want to leave your thoughts and beliefs out of the interview process.”


    A senior counsel at ACLJ tells the Christian Post that Jenkins’ rejection is “every bit as unlawful as singling out his race, or singling out his gender,” but a school spokeswoman denies the accusations, the Baltimore Sun reports.


    The ACLJ claims that Dougherty also told Jenkins that his 3.2 GPA was lower than other potential students and that a 10-year-old criminal charge on Jenkins’s record could make it difficult to find a job in this field.

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    Obviously this kind of crap will stop in America. But it goes to show you how crazed the thinking of some people is.
     
  2. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    It probably depends on what exactly he said. I feel like we're not getting both sides of the story here. But if he just said "I'm christian and that's important to me" then the school is in the wrong.

    If he said "I'm christian so I'd probably have an issue with patients seeking an abortion, birth control or serving gay people" then I could see the school's position.
     
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    I'm anxious to read the libs' defense of the college.

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    Why not make a judgement based on the given information? He gave a two-word answer, "My God."
     
  4. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what I can decipher, both sides agree about what he said. He was asked "What's most important to you?" and he said, "My God." That is it. But frankly, no talk about God should be used against him, and no administrator should have reason to say, "You shouldn't talk about religion in a job interview."
     
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    Yeah, if my kid can't get into Harvard ....I'm going to have him submit an application with a Jesus fish on it....and then claim "religious discrimination" when they don't admit him.
     
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    I'm sure that is a great answer if you applying to enter the priest hood. What the hell does that have to do with medical school?

    Is the interview completely meaningless in the applicants acceptance? If it is between someone answering God to that question, which gives the interviewer nothing as pertaining to the purpose of the interview position, and someone saying the most important thing to them is something related to the field. . .who are you going to say had the better answer.

    If the guy had said teenage mutant ninja turtles we would all laugh at him. But maybe that is the most important thing to him. Doesn't mean it is a good answer, and maybe God is the most important thing to the guy in the OP. . .again not a good answer during an interview for anything that doesn't involve some religious organization or the priest hood.
     
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    Oh you'll be fine getting your kids into Ivy League schools. Like you, they hate God also.
     
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    In any event, the interviewer left himself open to a discrimination suit.
     
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    If that's all he wrote then it's pretty clear the school is in the wrong. I don't think he would have been accepted anyway... but they stupidly gave his religion as one of the reasons behind the rejection and now they will pay for it.
     
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    Probably, anytime someone feels slighted over religion, race, sex, etc it can cause a (*)(*)(*)(*) storm.

    But I disagree with this being a 1st amendment issue like mention in the article.
     
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    Okay. Then they can use the 14th.
     
  12. GlobalCitizen

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    Yes, the interview/resume process for schools and jobs in this country are ALL about lying and not saying what you really mean. People really need to be taught that as they are growing up. If you are honest, you get nowhere.
     
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    Pretty much. All those questions like "what is your greatest weakness" are so vapidly meaningless that the person with the best answer is simply the best bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter.
     
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    His response to their question was meant to determine his passion for his chosen field, which the aritcle clearly states. He came up short when he showed lack of imagination and creativity to answer in a way that would have sold them on his aptitude for what the school's criteria is. I don't see how this is discrimination any more than a tone deaf person being rejected by Julliard and then claiming discrimination based upon a disability.
     
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    It is a serious request. People need to start being trained early, that lying in order to make yourself look good is an absolutely vital skill to make it in today's America. People like this guy should be aware of this game. I wasn't until it was too late. I thought honesty, principles, and hard work would get me somewhere, and it doesn't unless you add the above skill. We are not properly teaching our young ones.
     
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    It's the truthful answer to the question, dumbbell. If they didn't want the truthful answer, they should have asked the question differently.

    Why do we have to explains things to you liberals that you should have understood since Jr. High?
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tea Partyers and most real Conservatives want a country where lying in order to make yourself look good is NOT a good skill. This is an outcome of secularist liberals. Those for whom honesty is not an absolute good.
     
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    Yeah, you shouldn't be giving completely truthful answers in an interview. Like when they ask you "what is your greatest weakness". . .don't tell them you have ADHD or are lazy, even if it is the truth. Cause it won't help you land the job.

    This man saying God was the most important thing to him isn't what they were looking for in an answer, doesn't matter if it is truthful or not. Guy might need to take a few practice interview sessions.
     
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    I'm not sure really how we arrived here. But there is a flaw in the interview question itself. It should have stated besides God, family, and country, what is most important to you. But they won't word it like that, because they literally want applicants that are willing to lie.
     
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    My biggest weakness ? My co - workers. Best response for interview.
     
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    And another example of a question in which the applicant is expected to use dishonesty, and the employer gauges his or her use of that dishonesty.
     

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