Man who brought Molotov cocktails near Capitol on January 6 sentenced to nearly 4 years

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Not my claim so not my homework
     
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    But that's neither the argument you nor MJ made. You're just covering your ass by putting that line there in the last sentence. Now, onto this. Did the sentence fit the crime? Perhaps(consider his age, he might not have more than 10-12 years left on earth realistically speaking.) So 4 years could be 1/3rd to perhaps even half his life. But more broadly to the point, this individual wasn't charged with some great conspiracy either.

    The day of January 6th, will *not* live in infamy, and it's political capital has truly been exhausted. It's long been time for the nation to focus on building our infrastructure to sustain ourselves for the 21st century. Not everyone wants to beat a pinata called Donald Trump.
     
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    Hahaha! Only 4 years for trying to over throw the government? Yeah right.
     
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    Give it up....AP? Gee I wonder how they'll spin it.

    Meanwhile an actual judge even says the DOJ has two different agendas as their recommended sentences were grossly disproportionate.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/29/mcfadden-jan6-jail-kavanaugh-sentences/

    McFadden details exactly how the DOJ has treated the jan 6th rioters very differently.

    But go on and explain this away....as a lefty you're duty bound to excuse it.

    BTW, the judge was the only thing keeping the sentencing reasonable in this instance. So even if you want to try to argue the sentencing has been comparable, that's only because some judges have gone against the DOJ who wanted ridiculous sentences for the Jan 6th rioters as opposed to others with different political views.
     
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    The Judge is an idiot that is NOT napalm. He never brought any of the materials within the security perimeter, all but the two unregistered firearms are legal to possess. He did not even enter the Capital building. Seems a little harsh to me.
     
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    What did they say at trial and what proof did they present?
     
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    Gave a link for that twice already.
    Knock yourself out.
     
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    What a shock, you're missing the point and make a strawman.
    The question was...."why did this guy get 4 years and the blm rioters don't get anything close to that" and the article states how one was given a sentence of 7 years. Point proven. Who know what the hell you're talking about.
     
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    Not according to the article, no. Most who committed minor offenses, like transpessing or unlawful assembly have already had their cases adjudicated. The more serious crimes are still in the pipeline in one form or another.
     
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    So you want disorderly conduct to carry a sentence longer than what is one the books for that state or the prosecution recommended? Or do you want disorderly conduct crimes to be treated and prosecuted like 1st degree homicide crimes? You do realize that a social justice protest IS NOT a "overthrow the government" type of crime. Those who committed crimes while protesting the death of George Floyd received sentences based on evidence of their crime, and not of the political activity, which is what conservatives are strongly inuating here.
     
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    It's called intent. The question is, why was it a few short blocks aways from the protests? Why did he bring it there to begin with? There is NO REASONABLE explanation for those two questions I asked. And given the police probably researched his social media acounts, then yes, it is very probable, based on his online activity, his statements to the police on why those things were there, with his fingerprints, and under his name of the vehicle, and either he did not have one, or he tried, painfully and pathetically, attempted to explain away those questions.
     
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    Well I missed it, I guess ;) But I did se the two about Jan 6 though! Funny how that is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


     
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    I think a fact being overlooked is that the social injustice protesters are arrested, arraigned and prosecuted by local law groups (county, city) with local judges.
    The Jan 6th protesters are being handled by federal prosecutors and federal judges, quite possibly with different rules and sentencing criterion.
    That could easily account for differences.
     
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    Enough to convict him. Just wondering if you had any thoughts. I guess not.
     
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    Arrested =/= prosecuted.
     
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    ANTIFA is a definitely an left-wing terror group and as such they'll show up to bring violence to any leftist cause. But they also attack the very people they claim to defend, either as a result of pure ignorance and stupidity or because they're just savages and like wild animals they cant control themselves once the blood-lust sets in. ANTIFA have beat trans women bloody. ANTIFA have beat black men. ANTIFA have beat eldery Jewish people (at anti-'nazi' /s rallies no less).

    And yes the prog media doesn't care about ANTIFA's leftist terrorist violence UNLESS they need to protect ANTIFA, then they care a whole lot.

    Case in point an innocent man named Billy Wilson. Leftoid publications and pundits in regional media spent almost 2 years regularly trying to pressure Portland city council, prosecutors, and police to charge Wilson for doing nothing more than defending himself. Wilson was trying to get home when a pack of rabid leftist ANTIFA terrorists decided to attack him. They threw bottles bricks pipes and other objects at him as he was getting into his truck and while he was driving away. So Wilson did what anyone would do when surrounded by a pack of rabid, violent, degenerate pieces of ****... he hit the gas. And thats ALL he hit. Despite leftist protesters, politicians, and members of the leftist fake news local MSM, LYING on social media about him 'targeting protesters' he did nothing of the kind as per his statement (and video evidence) he ensured no one was in his path as he sped away.

    For almost TWO YEARS this cabal of terrorist supporters/enabled/defenders in government, in the police force, and in media, tried to get Wilson put behind bars despite video evidence of the encounter proving beyond all shadows of any doubt that he was an innocent victim of an ANTIFA terrorist attack. TWO ****ING YEARS it took for an honest judge to finally toss the charges. And to your point, the media that had worked so hard to build this man into the very thing he was a victim of, a terrorist, had barely a word to say for themselves after their attempts had failed.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/0...t-man-who-fled-antifa-attack-in-truck-827235/
     
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    140 total injuries (btw little known fact catching COVID as a result of being there is counted as an injury).
    17 considered serious.
     
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    since none of us can climb into his brain, why don't you tell us since you seem to know
     
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    They found a list of politicians who he found interesting, and he brought them weapons with them.
    Some can fill in the dots. Some pretend they can not.
     
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    No in the article it said it would have a “napalm like effect”. Which means it would stick to what it was thrown at while burning at a high temp
     
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    One????????

    You think that proves anything. It's been shown already that generally speaking the two groups have not been treated even close to the same

    Cry to someone else.
     
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    Do stupid ****, win stupid prizes.
     
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    The wheels of justice turn slowly
     
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    There are others, one is all I needed to prove that the thinking is wrong.
    "It's been shown".......you mean like I just did? You mean because Tucker told you so?
    I'm not crying about or to anyone or anything. Are you?
     
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    If it wasn't for witnesses not willing to testify, "Billy" Wilson would have been charged AND convicted of reckless driving, class A misdemeanors under Oregon law. He intentionally drove through a crowd on a street despite having plenty of time and opportunity to take a different path to avoid the protests. That was not self defense by any stretch of the imagination. Furthermore, no where was he, or even has been associated with ANTIFA by the police or any official documents in a court of law. He has been labeled as such by people in the RW, but labeling someone is not proof. .
     

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