Maria Butina Pleads Guilty to Role in a Russian Effort to Influence Conservatives

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    clearly you use that variance to flex the law in any direction that suits you
     
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    Auuugh! Like, McCarthyism! Every other unfair prosecution in history!!!

    Learn to make distinctions between clearly distinguishable events, my unlearned chum.
     
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    Maybe you should read about what happened instead of guessing.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    aw... you're so sweet... thank you for telling me what to do :rolleyes:

    my turn

    Maybe you should stop incarcerating innocent people just so you can score political points
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are suggestions only conservatives own guns and go to church? How obama of you.
     
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    I didn’t incarcerate her. And she pleaded guilty, my hysterical amigo.

    Generally, that means someone is guilty. What makes you think that she’s magically innocent?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol: good think you said "generally" before that statement because no... it does not mean someone is guilty... what use would we then have for the word coercion :grin:
     
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    Cite facts to contradict her guilty plea.

    And I don’t mean pointless comparisons to non analogous historical events, or your own conjecture.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.. here's the situation, you are set on finding her guilty right here on this forum. Even while many on here, from both sides, agree she's nothing but a scapegoat, an attempt to get to others. The case against her is very weak.. she arranged meetings... like a ******n secretary, that's your case and admission of guilt by coercion. the whole thing stinks.
     
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    clearly you are talking out of your hat as it suits you.
     
  11. Nemesis

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    Hat meaning something a bit lower.

    I don’t have to prove that she’s guilty after she’s pleaded guilty.
     
  12. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously... children... go sit in the corner
     
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    How about using facts, reason or personal experience for a change?

    Screaming hysterical nonsense is not an effective means of contradicting a guilty plea, my friend.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you've got nothing... you're getting personal because you've lost
     
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    guess you are unfamiliar with newton's third.
     
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    Yes. Because a guilty plea is “nothing”. Did you take logic course at Hogwart’S Academy?

    She pleaded guilty with a cooperation agreement because she’s guilty. Your response has been to refuse to offer any argument except to weep and scream. You’ve got less than nothing; your response is anti rule of law.
     
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    fluff ^^ it's just fluff, quote me when you've got something decent to say, the two of you are now becoming desperate and boring
     
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    Yes . You’ve proven that she’s totally innocent by ranting and raving. Good work, counsel!
     
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    Guilty pleas are now “fluff”. Ok.

    Jesus. LOL!
     
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    Inquisition anyone? What's interesting is that she pleaded to having another motive for befriending people, so what is that motive? Obviously she's not working for the Russian government, or Russia would have retaliated by grabbing one of our own. So who is she working for? Maybe a sanctioned individual?

    But sanctioning requires the approval of the UN, so what the US considers sanctions is not universally recognized as such. What she did then was break US law. But people and nations are breaking US law all the time, and no one cares unless it goes against Washington's political agenda.

    As an example, when Vladimir Putin showed proof at a meeting in Astana that Turkish trucks were carrying ISIS's
    stolen oil by the thousands, and he gave the name of all the countries that were buying that oil Washington could care less.
     
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    Well thank you, wish I could say the same to you but you've done a really **** job
     
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    Well, there you have it. Vladimir Putin is a hero and a font of truthiness and honestifications!

    Meanwhile, Maria Butina is magically innocent, because, well, McCarthyism, torture, and a lot of factless screeching.
     
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    BTW, Vladimir Putin is a lying, murdering POS.
     
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    I never said that and challenge you to prove I did. So, really, stop making up lies about what I've said. What I will say though is that I feel that many Republicans in Congress have attached themselves to NRA money which is in fact money given to the NRA by 'strawmen' who are in fact Russian oligarchs working with Putin to create a Congress sympathetic to both the NRA policies and subsequently to the endeavors of Vladimir Putin which is to control our elected Republican Congress in order to push his agenda forward including but not limited to removal of Magnitsky Act sanctions that Obama imposed on Russia.
     
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    Well said. We seem to have a number of Putin butt smooching fake conservatives around here who become angry when facts and reason enter the picture.
     
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