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Mattis: US must confront Russia on providing weapons to the Taliban

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    I have no doubt that if Trump strikes Kim Jong Un will launch a nuclear strike against South Korea... millions of people are at risk. I think we need to try and resolve this without nuclear weapons, if there'a any chance at all for a diplomatic solution it should be given priority.
     
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    you can google, the military experts say no. one stake blows out Kim with all his his afro - Asian weaponry, do you remember "the mother of all bombs"? it was a massage to Kim and Putler not to Taliban , or IS
     
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    And yet the US provided weapons to the Taliban for use against Soviet-backed forces in Afghanistan.

    Funny how everything gets a return.
     
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    If this is true, I would IMMEDIATELY begin handing all anti-assad forces, including ISIS and al qaeda in syria, stinger and other shoulder-fired missiles to take out all assad and russian air forces there. I'd also provide them with anti-tank rockets and sniper rifles as well. This is an outrage, if true.
     
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    And what exactly should we say to the Russians "I know we were supporting the Taliban when you guys were fighting them but, two wrongs do not make a right" ?
     
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    If Kim Jong Un is not a threat, why is the US "sending an Armada" and threatening him militarily? All just for show? Why worry about him if the US can take him out so easily.

    It is because he is a threat that is why we are having this conversation in the first place... it would be a hell of a risk to take... betting against him not launching a nuclear strike and 100% on Thaad for incase he does.
     
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    The USA should completely leave Afghanistan same as the Russians did when they were there.
     
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    GOD Doomed the USA!! Trump's presidency speaks for itself.
     
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    They are still there ... ISIS still made some bombings against ISAF and also against Taliban and Al Qaida.
     
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    i think you forgot that USA&UK saved your Istanbul from the hands of mobster Koba in 1945
     
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    then A_stan will come to you . like it happened in Muscovy ´s case , with heroin and terrorism
     
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    Did you say you have an original book of Shakespeare?
     
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    Ahaha... Really?
     
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    Kim Jong can became a threat in the nearly future, thats why he must be stopped new . Muscovy supports North Korea much like all dictators because its is just Nigeria in snow , it can only destabilize , it can not bring stability , and prosperity like USA can. they need Kim Jong with nukes , and rockets in order to keep Japan , SK, Australia and USA busy. Fuc& Kim, save souls if 25 millions people ...Look i am from east-europe , i know what they think, they are bluffers
     
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    Stalin and the Turkish Crisis of the Cold War, 1945–1953
    https://books.google.se/books?isbn=0739168088 - Översätt den här sidan
    Jamil Hasanli - 2011 - ‎History
    İstanbul, 1968 (Gürsel, H. F. History of T urco-Russian Relations. Istanbul, 1968). Gürün, Kamuran E. T ürk-Sovyet İlişkileri (I 920-1 95 3), TTK yayını, Istanbul, ...
    Soviet Union–Turkey relations - Wikipedia
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    Soviet Union–Turkey relations were the diplomatic relations between the Soviet Union and the ... Russian Embassy in Istanbul. ... In his congratulatory message to Stalin dated May 16, 1945, Turkey's prime minister Şükrü Saracoğlu called ...
    Turkish Straits crisis - Wikipedia
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    The Turkish Straits crisis was a Cold War-era territorial conflict between the Soviet Union and ... Deputy premier Lavrentiy Beria got in Stalin's ear, claiming that Turkish territory to the southwest of Georgia was stolen from the ... After the Allied defeat of Nazi Germany, the Soviets returned to the issue in 1945 and 1946.
    Türk Boğazları krizi - Vikipedi
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    Josef Stalin, 1936 konvansiyonunun değiştirilmesi için uluslararası ... Sovyetler Birliği, Nazi Almanyası'nı kesin olarak yenince, 1945 ve 1946 yılında konuyu ... Sovyet Dışişleri Bakanı Molotov, İstanbul ve Çanakkale Boğazları üzerindeki Rus ...
    Stalin'in Türkiye'den toprak istediği doğru - Odatv
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    28 sep. 2015 - İşte 1945'te Stalin bundan pişman olmuş görünüyor. .... Gidiniz, İstanbul'daki Fransız, İngiliz, İtalyan, Alman kütüphanelerini dolaşınız, Troçki'yi ...
     
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    don't forget that IS top - commanders got education in USSR, (Iraqi baath leaders ) and have had long, long time relation with Muscovite KGB
     
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    So? Demanding Black sea entry violations means US/UK saved us from Russian invasion? Inonu was the president of Turkiye and he knew Stalin's rhetorics were just response to the illegal demands of the west through straits. Even Hitler didnt think bombing our shores just few miles away from Greece while he definitely could. We were neutral dude. West wanted us to be satellite and they managed to do it. Thats all.
     
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    why ´d Hitler do so? when turkey was practically his ally? man , you scary me, you was always such intelligent guy , dont you know about about Muscovite imperial consent of the worm seas ? very similar to "rjusski mir" , so thunk, think ...try to read what Muscovite "press" wrote after you downed their SU in Syria
     
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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...gest-russia-arms-taliban-170424204006251.html
     
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    The perception of threat is different. Deep state seems it has taken the wheel (Trump) after 3 months of struggle. Deep state USA is globalist unlike the Turkish. North Korea is a closed society, Iran too. Globalists are for open societies, open economies and open borders to infiltrate states to take control of them in much easier and "legit" ways. Pushing for opennes is the only solution to fullfill their one world agenda. Thats why Kim and Iran are threats to the globalists and therefore to the deep state USA. Stabilty is the biggest lie ever told. Whenever you hear that word make sure you read it reverse in meaning; instability, as Afghanistan and the entire middle east are speaking for themselves.
     
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    Litwo you make me laugh man. We were NEUTRAL in WW2. Never been an ally to Hitler. WWI? Yes but no Hitler, to Germany. That's why despite having won in all battles at all fronts we were forced to comply with measures put before us as being on the losing side. Sevres was dictated and the German lover stupid ass Sultan signed it. Ataturk rejected it and organized the worn out nation to fight against it. Then as you know we kicked British French Italian and poor Greek out of our homeland, established Republic of Turkiye and by great diplomatic moves made the entire world to recognize it. The anti imperialist stance you see from me is not baseless. :)
     
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    As for the Russian press after the SU-24 incident:

    To me that was all "smart". Why? Because Russia has seen what cliques were behind the attack and what they were trying to get Russia to do. Russian strategists didn't fall into the trap. Instead, they turned the entire situation into their advantage by spreading ""dark propaganda"" in the most serious international political platforms against that clique. Some key bureaucrats in Turkish government were in target of the propaganda, leaving the US no choice but stay neutral, although the US was backing those bureaucrats. Otherwise, with the evidences provided by the Russians, the US government would have been finding itself defending a wrong doing. By such smart soft power implementation Russia managed to hit many birds with one stone: Uncovered the globalist clique, had Turkish government come to its terms, paralyzed the US influence within the country, and most importantly "won Turkish patriots" for good.

    Thank you Russia :)
     
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