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Maybe the media really is the enemy

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Le Chef, Jan 22, 2019.

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  1. Adfundum

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    No, it's not. Even if that were true, the fact that both sides do what only one sides is being criticized for kind of sheds any argument of bias because of the selective bias the comments are based on.
     
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    Actually lack of accountability is the enemy. When the majority of the press post outright lies and misinformation but receive no punishment or flack by their peers, KNOWING that the lies are lies, that is the problem. The Right to Life march was the most recent example in a long line of examples since 2016. The Left instantly jumped to conclusions to DESTROY this kid, before having the slightest clue as to the details. Elected officials even gave their opinion, MOST now deleted(shocked). But many in the MSM have not apologized. The fact that these people still have jobs after this incident and so many more, where they have simply looked the other way time and time again, prove if there is an enemy of the people...its the LEFT giving up any standards as to what constitutes journalism. Its literally GONE!!!! The cage photos at the border is another one of the most egregious crimes the MSM have committed against the American people. Clipping and twisting Trumps quotes day after day is also disgusting and proves the MSM wants chaos and strife. They WANT people at eacohters throats, because the more outrageous the headline the more clicks, which generally translates into money. The MSM is NOT journalism anymore. They're an arm of the Democrat wing, which is frightening and dangerous to the future of the country. The sheer volume of false information spread about Trump combined with the vast amount of negative information hidden about Obama during his 8 years is just...staggering.

    And when you consider what the MSM is compared to say, FOX and talk radio, it becomes quite clear. The volume of misinformation from both sides just can't be compared. Its basic math. Its undeniable. 1 news source and a few people on talk radio simply doesn't amount to squat when you compare it to the MSM and Hollywood.
     
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    The only one that does not is fox news. Now if you want to include Limbaugh, Hannity et al as news sources it gets a little less one sided.
     
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  4. Adfundum

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    Fox shows are full of bias. You want proof? Watch the programs. What is the point of a show that comments on and interprets the news? They offer an opinion, and opinions are based in part on bias. If you don't see bias, it's not because it isn't there. And it's pretty much the same across the board. No matter what source you watch, there is bias.

    Pure, unbiased, fact-only reporting would bore us to death, so unless a network intends to go out of business, it has to put an angle on everything. That means that they play on our biases and use them to attract viewers and visitors. That means it's up to -us- to understand that biased news is just the bait that lures us in for the advertisers and data miners.
     
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    Surely, you're not suggesting the Right Stream Media doesn't do the exact same thing?
     
    Adfundum, Jan 24, 2019
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    Soros donates to a lot of places that support democratic ideas and social equity. Why is that seen as evil?
     
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    You had me going until you limited the bias and hate to the Left.
     
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    How did the right become so weak and powerless in the media?
     
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    With approximately 30 percent of media TRUST by the people, by their OWN POLLING, and mostly by democrat voters, the "right" is NOT WEAK and powerless.

    Steve
     
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    The MSM has millions of viewers every day. You have one poll. It sure seems like the right are pretty weak and powerless about getting their message out
     
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    Look it up YOURSELF! The polling is similar across the board. Ask yourself, why don't they change?

    Gannett just announced layoffs of "journalists" across the country yesterday.

    Steve
     
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    It's one poll. Millions and millions watch the MSM every day.

    Why cant the right get their message out?
     
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    This really brings up a great point. We used to think that photos didn't lie, and videos somehow placed us at the scene. That seemed to validate our opinions. Clearly, that's not the case. Videos shot from different angles changes the story. We're at a point in time in which we can't whole-heartedly trust what we see with out own eyes.

    They onus is on us to question everything we are presented with and start from the assumption that it's likely not accurate.
     
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    The OP is correct, but the agenda the mainstream media advances is not necessarily confined to anti-GOP matters.

    MSM has its own agenda, determined by people behind the scenes, especially the spooks of the CIA. The MSM promotes narratives that are false and misleading. It suppresses facts that work against their agenda. Perhaps one must be a conspiracy theorist to understand that fact?
     
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    Welcome home.
     
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    BS! It's SIMILAR TO EVERY POLL! The fact is, to be an informed critical thinker, you must get both sides of an issue. That doesn't mean people TRUST THEM!

    Steve
     
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    The difference between here and Venezuela is that inflation is low, there's plenty of food, there's plenty of opportunity, and nobody is fire-bombing media outlets.

    But in both cases the media is a branch of government with an agenda to support their choices.
     
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    Fox News is not biased?
     
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    The majority of the right wing press post outright lies. They misinform but go without punishment. Their peers do not challenge them or receive punishment or any condemnatiion at all.

    Real America knows that the right wing press lies, and Real America will pay them back in full for their errors.
     
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    Cite your evidence. Face it. The right ate weak and powerless in this area
     
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    Some above obviously do not understand the dif between opinion polls and predictive polls.

    The Alt Right and Trumpers gang stalk and try to overwhelm their opponents, and they have been failing lately.

    Trump is by far the most divisive President since Lincoln. The dif between the two is that Trump is no patriot.
    Trump is no patriot.
     
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    You people keep telling yourselves that while your political aspirations keep falling apart. That's how the media brainwashing ends up.

    Gannett just announced layoffs of "journalists" across the country yesterday.

    Steve
     
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    I have no political aspirations. I am retired.

    But if you complain about bias in the media it just means your side is weak and powerless in that area
     
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    So I have to teach you English as well? It's no wonder you TRUST the media while only 30 percent or so does.

    as·pi·ra·tion
    /ˌaspəˈrāSH(ə)n/
    noun
    plural noun: aspirations
    1. 1.
      a hope or ambition of achieving something.
      "the yawning gulf between aspiration and reality"
      synonyms: desire, hope, longing, yearning, hankering, urge, wish;
     
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    As I said. I have no political aspirations. I am retired
     
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