Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

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  1. notme

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    The US on average makes a massive amount of money. Let's not forget about that. Yet MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of hard working Americans do not get paid a honest day wages for a honest day work.... as if the US is a 3rd world nation. Don't make me laugh.
     
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    WTF is up with all of these student loans if only the rich can get college degrees.
     
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    That is not why poor are poor and remain poor.

    Did some poor nutcase tell you that?
     
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    So the solution from liberals is to import millions of illegals to compete with the people you say don't receive a living wage.
     
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    Question for you.

    My daughter married a cop. He was forced to retire due to an on the job injury.

    They have two sons. James is 20. He will soon graduate from the university. His first year income will be $215,000. Why should he work his butt off and his parents pay for quite a bit of his education only to give his money to some dumb poor person?

    Nathan's plan is to have a military flying career. Probably he will end up as an Airline pilot. Why would he want to donate his income to those you classify as poor?
     
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    I cited a paper disproving yours... and from a left-leaning source at that.
     
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    Ahem, we must stop calling them liberals. Liberals do not confiscate our property like Democrats do.
     
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    LOL I have a friend that work for a state welfare department in the 50s to 60s and she would need to do bedroom/apartment checks in the middle of the night to made sure that no man be he a husband or not was living with the woman and the kids while the state was helping the family out.

    No on the lower end of society it was damn good judgment not to have a proven stability relationship with a man or you and your kids would suffer due to the Jim crow limit on the paychecks of your average black man.
     
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    The US program that pays MILLIONS of people food stamps while working full time jobs tells me that.
     
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    I thought it was less to the rich and more to the poor... like blasio is saying.
     
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    Why do the people of sears get in total a 25 million bonus while the company is filing for bankruptcy?
    Why are people like you complaining that those can't do with less money?

    All in all... the US makes MASSIVE amounts of money. It's absolutely rich.
    So you go tell me why people who work hard still need food stamps as if it's freaking Africa.


    FYI... Nathan's medium income as a pilot would be HALF of that first year income of his brother. Sounds rather unreal.
     
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    No, it simply explains that they will have a difficult time gaining those skills, and if they do, they will be saddled with debt.

    You have to allow for the possibility that these single mothers are setting their kids up for a very tough road.

    Nobody talks about that.

    They just look at the problem later and use it as evidence of injustice.
     
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    Sounds like both of your grandkids on are a wise path.

    They should not be burdened with subsidizing the poor choices of others.

    What type of specialty pays 215K right out of schoo? Im guessing something to do with computer engineering.
     
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    That paper is not disproving anything, since it's just some persons opinion. It's not founded on figures and numbers.
     
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    Absolutely. The results of these wellfare policies created an incentive to break up the family. As a result, a 17 year old knows if she gets knocked up her kids and herself will get a check.

    I have a friend who used to work for the welfare office in Ca, he's since moved but the stories he had were insane.
     
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    Even people who work hard aren't immune from making bad decisions, and occasionally bad luck.

    If you think you are in africa, you don't know africa.
     
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    So what. It's about the point of not getting payed a honest day wages for the work that was done.
     
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    It all starts with a salary that low that they can not make a living on it even when they work full time.
    The government even helps out the employees who undercut those people by handing out food stamps.

    A person from a broken home, being on the bottom of the social ladder simply would not get some fancy education because his parents can't afford it. That sets his future to be that it probably will not be great. It will enter the job market with probably no college degree and never the means to get one because the pay is not even enough to make a living. And I proved that it works like that because the social mobility in the US is just bad.
     
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    You keep repeated that phrase. Its subjective in meaning but employment is an agreement between the employee and employer.

    If the employee isn't getting paid what they are worth, they should go to where they are.
     
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    Everybody who works a honest day, is worth a honest wage. That is what it is worth in the US. It's the American norm. While it is un-American that taxes are used to help out the filthy rich to under pay their employees. It really is weird you're that un-American.
     
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    Yes, James is indeed a computer engineer for FACEBOOK. I am stunned at their high pay. Well, soon James will have his degree.
     
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    No it does not "all start there".

    It starts long before, based on things like education, work history, work ethic, etc.

    The govt does not "help out", Its takes from some and gives to others per the politicians in power.

    The people you describe (needing food stamps) are as a rule not paying income taxes.

    These figures are worse now, but note how many women are having children out of wedlock, essentially born into a broken home, and largely destined for a life of poverty, poor roll models, and diminished outcomes.

    These women have made very poor decisions.
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    Define "honest wage". Its a meaningless term because its subjective.

    Do you think burger flippers should get 20 bucks an hour?
     
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    That is the wrong way to look at things. It is making excuses is all.

    No doubt the extreme poor have to live on the sidewalk, but most of the poor have problems.
    Such as. No goals. Such as no desire to plan. Democrats promise them free food. Why work when you get free food?

    I counted myself as a rabid Democrat from the time Mom could coach me until i was 42. At no time did I question what Democrats said but grew hate in my heart for republicans.

    My parents were comfortable but not rich. Then never supported my college education other than room and board. Sure I appreciate that. But i had to drop out of college lacking a decent income.

    Why did I become a republican? I studied the rich, I studied political parties, I studied government, I tried to locate a successful and large nation ran on the Democrat party philosophy. No nation on Earth is successful using American Democratic party taught programs or public policy. At the end of the day, the best book you should read is this book. BTW, I do not have a degree yet I have taken college courses for decades. I find if you want to be educated, you will find out how and do it.

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    I already did this a couple of times in this thread.

    Of course it does. You focus on what happens later on in life when they are like 20 and get children out of wedlock, while it starts when they are children and can not get a college education/skill set at age 20 because their parents can't afford it. And their parents can't afford it because the US government helps out the filthy 1% with tax cuts and helping that same 1% out with underpaying those people by giving food stamps to add to the salary.
     
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