McCain criticizes Trump calling media 'the enemy': 'That's how dictators get started'

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  1. Mackithius

    Mackithius Well-Known Member

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    While I agree with his sentiment, McCain can go sit on a plunger. I'm tired of that sellout. Never seen someone ride their past like this guy has. Talk about prostituting yourself out. He should be charged with treason for the atrocities he's aided in in the Middle East. So I don't think he's a credible source for anything.

    That said, I agree Trump should not be doing what he's doing. You should openly disagree with press that you disagree with. But to shut them out and marginalize them is not the right approach. History has shown that when leaders do that, bad things happen.
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

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    Trump supporters never have any defense for why they support a wannabe dictator (who tries to circumvent the Constitution--that he took an oath to uphold--at every turn).

    All anybody can get out of them is "But Obama/But Clinton/fake news".

    They really have no other defense for why they support Trump.
     
  3. Your Best Friend

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    How is Trump a "despotic tyrant"? Or was your comment not meant to be taken seriously?
     
  4. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    So, that isn't the observation. You can show disdain without being a bigot. But instead of having an argument, you use homophobic illustration to make a point for you. Using the image of mr Trump blowing mr Putin is something that you think about, often it seems. And that's the issue. And you've been called on it. Feel free to compound it further.
     
  5. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You support a warmonger that never saw a war he didn't support? Who knew? If anyone should know better McStain should.
     
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    Putin is the despotic tyrant. Although I'm sure trump aspires to be one.
     
  7. cupAsoup

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    You're worried about the words I use to describe a low life scumbag like putin? Does the mention of someone insulting putin get you upset? I guess part and parcel of being a trump apologist is having to defend dirtbags like putin. I'm not sure what image you're referring to, being on your knees is synonymous with being subservient. You decided it was fellatio, that's your problem. You should also look into the meaning of homoerotic. In the context I used, it was to demonstrate closeness that the two dirtbags in question (trump and Putin) seem to share in spirit and deed.

    A valiant attempt to try and deflect from defending trump. However, a failure all around. Anything else I can explain to you?
     
  8. jgoins

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    News media should report the news as it actually happens and not spin it so much it no longer resembles news. Report it accurately and verify everything. None of this is being done by the major news medias and in some cases they are just making stuff up on the fly. Yes they can disagree with the President but the need to accurately report and then they can disagree with it and use fact without supposition. I believe this is what the President was saying. If the press is honest then there should be no need for him to go around them.
     
  9. dixon76710

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    Has anyone ever gotten around to identifying what Trump has done to "control the press", or is the entire premise of this thread still based upon BS?
     
  10. drluggit

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    Nah. the comment was straight forward homophobic imagery espoused by yet another poorly educated and socialized member of our society. Which makes you a bigot. Dance around that all you wish, it doesn't change the fact. If you find the imagery of that 'erotic" I find that quite more disturbing.
     
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    McCain has lost it, lately. I'm not sure he's really fully in touch with rationality.

    The major media/press deserves all the criticism from Trump that it gets. Trump is just voicing what everybody in this country already knows.

    There is zero chance - zero - of a dictatorship rising out of criticism of the press.

    No institution in our country is above criticism.
     
  12. ecco

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    This has nothing to do with what, in your mind, the world does or does not know.

    This has to do with your allegation that "most of the media get their marching orders from the DNC".

    That is not an opinion. That is the reality.

    You made a Bull$hit post, partly cut and copied from Pro-Trump websites.

    You still have not provided any evidence for your allegation that "most of the media get their marching orders from the DNC".

    All your deflections can't change the facts.
     
  13. ecco

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    Donald Trump believes he and the press are at war with one another. One of the first steps taken in a war is to demean your enemy.

    I don't think it's necessary to post any of Trump's comments about the press to show this is what he is doing.



    You comment is absurd given the fact that Trump gets outraged every time the press accurately quotes him saying something stupid.
     
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    You mean "treason" as in supporting and voting for Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq.
     
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    See post #113.
     
  16. Habana

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    Hahahahahahahaha a lot of media get their marching orders from the DNC. Wikileaks's proved it. If that triggers you snowflake, oh well
     
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    I asked you what he has done to control the press, NOT what he has done to "demean" the press. And that's some silly fool logic that takes you from demeaning the press to controlling the press. A journey wholly within your own mind.
     
  18. Electron

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    The press is still free, for now. He's stopped taking questions from unfriendly reporters, and given press credentials to blatantly pro Trump reporters to pitch him softballs. He paints unflattering stories as "fake news", even as he spews a stream of falsehoods. He promotes an equivalency between his invented claims and confirmed facts, spreading uncertainty & chaos. He tries to intimidate reporters, calling them (not just their stories) "fake news". The man is poison.

    He's done his worst to undermine the press, but so far has only won over the Putin crowd. Dark days are here.
     
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    Press did that on their own. The Americans publics trust of the media is as low as its ever been.
     
  20. DivineComedy

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    Glad you agree that Obama and Hillary should have been impeached for their violation of oath of office, not to mention cowardice in the face of the enemy.

    Official Statecraft of the United States of America, the first one was posted on the State Department's website:

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." (Clinton)

    "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." (Obama)

    “Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents.” (Clinton) http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite

    “‘We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video,’ said Hillary Clinton.”
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn

    “If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or”
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

    "’[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. [485 U.S. 46, 56] For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas.’ Id., at 745-746.” http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=485&invol=46
     
  21. ecco

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    You haven't been able to provide evidence for your allegation. Posting deflections isn't providing evidence. Laughing about it isn't providing evidence. Now you make another Bull$hit allegation: "Wikileaks's proved it". But, once again, true to form, you provide no evidence to back up your assertion.

    Good bye.
     
  22. Habana

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    See ya snowflake and remember not to buy the DNC propaganda most of the media is pushing.
     
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    Do you think Putin replaced the heads of all the media outlets with his own people right after he became President? Things take time. Donald Trump believes he and the press are at war with one another. One of the first steps taken in a war is to demean your enemy. His supporters, like yourself, already disbelieve what they see or hear from MSM. Instead, they get most of their "news" from a very few outlets like Fox, Breitbart, InfoWars and Freedom Daily.
     
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    Soooooooo the answer to he question, what has Trump done to control the media, would be nothing. You just cant bring yourself to admit it.
     
  25. Mrlucky

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    Yeah, we tell the truth and call them as we see them. McCain is an old loose cannon that only got reelected on President Trump's coat tails. He's no threat to anyone but himself.

    Now if we really want to talk about Idiots, Maxine Watters is a stellar example of where democrats are headed, right down the toilet.
     

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