McConnell and White House counsel agree to coordinate impeachment trial plans

I know.. right? If you're laughing because you're nervous, awesome. Liberals should be. At least it isn't to devastating as crying all the time because your theocracy is dying...

 

An interesting idea and I'm sure it will receive a lot of thought. Either way, Trump will be impeached.

 

So, you ARE upset the Senate GOP will be as partisan as the house Dems.
Too bad, eh?

 

And acquitted, for the same reason.

 

You are fully aware of the fact you cannot demonstrate this to be true.

 

Treason, bribery, crimes and misdemeanors are all part of criminal law.

 

Billy the Bagman was pretty successful in quashing the Mueller Report. This is true. but virtually nothing else in that post is accurate.

And Republicans were looking for a reason to Impeach Obama from the minute HE got elected. They wasted no time with that Fast and Furious nonsense and kept right on for years. They weren't successful because Obama not NOT abuse his power or break the law...unlike Trump and what Trump did IS serious

 

When the senate acquits Trump of the charges levied against him by the House, will you consider him innocent of same?
Why not?
Since you will believe Trump is guilty no matter what. why does your opinion matter?

 

The Senate isn't a jury. The Senate is executive branch. If you're looking for some kind of jury, then send it over to the judicial branch. Oh, but that's right, the Dems are terrified of sending any of their impeachment nonsense over to the courts.

I wonder why.

 

Not only is it not serious what Trump did, it's not even criminal.

They didn't charge Trump with committing any crime, and that's a fact.

 

An even more interesting feature has been making the rounds. Pelosi holds the articles and subpoenas Bolton, Pompeo, and Trump's current chief of staff Mulvaney as key witnesses. Then let the courts consider the legality of White House blocking for months while the election season plays out. The last thing in the universe the GOP wants is to have these fact witnesses to testify because game's up if the do. The more the GOP fights this, the public will wonder WTF.

Meanwhile, McConnell and Graham have, like most politicians in power always do, overplayed their hand in statements of Trump's innocence. Nearly 70% of voters don't like this one bit because they don't see this as a viable trial, much less a fair one. Watch how this evolves.

 

As of tomorrow, once she holds the vote and the articles are passed, the window for this strategy closes.

 

The only wrinkle in that plan is the obvious fact that the Dems are utterly terrified of taking any of their weak sauce to the courts.

The Dems aren't going to be able to compel any testimony without the court's backing, and they've already shown that they're too scared to take it to court. Which is why you see Schumer trying(in laughable vain) to browbeat the Senate into doing the job he's too cowardly to get done himself.

Oh, and there's no scenario in which the Dem's blink and slam on the brakes, that doesn't make them look like spineless, defeated cowards.

 

If the Senate lets Trump off scot-free, and they will, then the 2020 election will be a trial of the entire Republican PARTY, not just Trump. It will be their death-knell as a viable political influence.

 

The (petulant, socialist, batshit crazy) boy who cried wolf?

 

Keep telling yourself this.

 

So you're not buying the Dem's "We need to impeach him, or he'll get reelected" argument, huh?

 

Under current Dem definitions of impeachment, yes, Obama did. Under regular rules of impeachment? You're right, he didn't. Imagine the **** fit the Dems would have had if Republicans had used such a broad definition of "abuse of power" or had immediately impeached Obama for simply asserting his executive privilege like he did in Fast & Furious on "obstruction of Congress". We both know that if Republicans had used the same definitions that Dems are currently using you would have cried foul. But with Trump you don't. You support it even.

As for the crimes that Trump supposedly did? What were they exactly? House Dems say abuse of power. Where exactly was that? Was it in the quid quo pro? Well no, that's not it because every President and Ambassador (and VP) has used quid quo pro against nations. It is in fact a part of how politics work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". So even if there WERE a quid pro quo, that in itself is not impeachable. Holding back aid? Again, not impeachable as Presidents have the power to do so. Even Obama did it... and no, I'm not talking about Biden and Ukraine on that. There are other instances. The "Crime" or "abuse of power" would have been if he had done these things for political gain. THAT is where the abuse of power would come from.

And there in lies the problem. There is NO evidence what so ever that Trump did this for political gain. There are ASSUMPTIONS. Those assumptions are based on nothing more than Biden running for POTUS and Trump BEING the POTUS that Biden wants to replace. But assumptions are not fact. None of the witnesses were even asked if they thought that Trump did what he did due to political gain. All that the inquiry looked at is "did trump with hold aid?" "Did Trump condition a meeting with Zelensky on the promise of investigations". That is all that the inquiry looked at. Those are BOTH legitimate powers of a President. Not ONCE did the question arise "Did Trump do this for political gain". It is just assumed that he did. That's like assuming that the black man standing at the corner robbed the convenience store two blocks away and arresting him for it. Utter stupidity and utterly wrong.

So, you tell me, what were Trumps crimes that you can PROVE. Quid pro quo is not a crime. With holding aid is not a crime. The President Investigating someone for possible corruption is not a crime....in fact that is literally a part of their job and it doesn't matter if they are a political opponent, because, no one is above the law....remember that phrase that the Dems touted when referring to Trump? The ONLY possible crime here is if Trump did this for political gain. And the question was never even asked in ANY of the witness testimony hearings..... Much less proven.

And no, despite what Trump haters think, refusing to give documents or letting people testify is not a crime either. That's called Executive Privilege. In fact our system is specifically designed to settle such disputes between Congress and the President. It's called the Judiciary Branch. Congress does not have the power to determine whether their own subpoenas are valid. Congress does not have the power to determine that the Presidents use of Executive privilege is invalid and therefore criminal. That is a question for the Judiciary Branch and ONLY the Judiciary Branch. Now, the odds are that the Judiciary would vote against Trump in cases of impeachment vs release of documents and testimony. But that doesn't mean that its a foregone conclusion either. SCOTUS has ruled (LOOONG before Trump came around) that Executive Privilege is a power that the Executive Branch holds and that the power is able to thwart subpoena's under certain circumstances. That is why the Dems need to go to court to get Trump to release documents and witnesses. Because they cannot arrogate that power to themselves......and no, Trump doesn't need to declare that he's using executive privilege, he just simply needs to withhold the info. Executive Privilege is an action, not a declaration of intent.

 

I'm just recognizing reality. Trump's lickspittle legion of toadies is not going to do what it is blindingly obvious they should so it will be up to us to kick them all to the curb in 2020, and we will. Trump has lost quite a few voters and NONE of the opposition will be staying home this time. Additionally, nothing repels Americans like subservient sycophants of a bully, which pretty much describes every one of the Republican Senators.

 

Good luck with that.

 

Blindingly obvious? You mean the still unproven dem clown show narrative?

 

Okey dokey, artichokey.

 

That and the Mueller Report along with the entire Trump Presidency, you view the world through your MAGA hat, most of us don't even have one.

 

The left: Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one.

Also the left: Why isn't the trial proceeding like a legal process.

 

Ah yes.

The argument to switch to a "secret vote" in order for the people who elected them to not have their representative represent them.

The left: "we demand transparency".