McConnell is setting up Trump!

Yep loyalty to tRUMP. Almost like trump is a leader of some cult or something.

 

The duopoly maintains itself.

 

Better than a monopoly.

 

It is effectively a monopoly.

 

I must agree that we do need to STOP this ruinous 'trench-warfare' that we've been almost endlessly involved in since the Congressional elections in 2006. It's bad enough to be engaged in this destructive hatred for almost the past FIFTEEN YEARS, but it's even worse considering that we Americans don't live in a vacuum! Our adversaries throughout the world are loving every minute of our self-mutilation, and they're growing stronger every minute -- in part, because of our own stupidity, hatred, and doctrinaire blindness!

. "If the Americans WANT to commit suicide, why should we stop them...?!"

 

I DO blame Republicans for letting the Federal Reserve central banking 'combine' hijack the economy -- but DEMOCRATS ARE EQUALLY TO BLAME! Which Republican OR Democrat has stood up to the "Fed" and said, "Enough! YOU don't get to run the whole damned economy anymore!"

Oh, BTW, do you know who good ol' Joe Biden is going to install as his Treasury Secretary...? Why, it's none other than former FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIRMAN, JANET YELLEN!

Truth? Look for the big 'national debt-masturbation' to go on INDEFINITELY! Hell, it's already been going on -- big time -- since 2008, so why care about it now...? . Send me my next check for $2,000 -- and don't shut the 'printing press' off yet....

 

We need to be: The UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

I've had that signature of mine for near 2 decades.
Then entire time on this forum and on a couple others.

 

The 2 party system is no doubt a very very effective monopoly.

 

Are you kidding? Ever hear of the term "polarization?"

 

Truth? The "parliamentary system" may be better at this point, and I say that with great reluctance.

My German friends bemoan the big political 'axe-fights' they have over there -- BUT -- at least a ruling government must achieve a COALITION of different parties, with differing priorities and agendas, in order to survive in power. They have two large political parties there, true, (the CDU and the SPD) but the smaller parties are not squashed out of any real existence like ours are over here! From far-Left to the far-Right, a functioning diversity of political expression is woven into German politics.

And, in a parliamentary system, if a political president, chancellor, or prime minister loses the confidence of a majority of those in his coalition, they have a 'no-confidence' vote. And if that vote does not support the 'top-dog' in the coalition, he's GONE, like right now! You don't have to wait YEARS to boot his ass out! It's tempting, nicht war...?

 

Yes, both parties are culpable for the debt/deficit.

Very few on the far left or right will admit this and certainly even less Trump supporters believe it. I appreciate your objectivity on this point.

 

Ron Paul.

 

I don't know much about it.
But I think that it is a superior system. At least there's multiple so called parties and many differing voices.
Hard to strong arm new politicians into towing a single party line.

Our system was suppose to be set up for compromise.
But compromise is impossible when the other side is the enemy.

The other option I've been posting about as of late, is people want term limits. But Congress will never ever force themselves out of office.

So, vote out every incumbent in every election. Without hesitation. Until congress votes in term limits.

 

And saving his own political ass.

 

Yep!!! It so happens that once in a blue moon, these may dovetail nicely

 

Not trying to hijack the thread but congressional term limits violate the constitution. The founders didn't want term limits on congress for a reason and I dont believe we should install them simply because voters are to lazy to research candidates.

 

You can’t impeach a president who is no longer in office, unconstitutional. This is all a dream

 

History shows us McTeason doesn't give a damn about the country. McTurtle's comments about impeachment are all about revenge for Trump being seen as the cause of Mitch no longer being majority leader.

 

It's funny how they holler CONSPIRACY THEORY all the livelong day now about things that are not at all conspiracy theories, while thinking it completely credible that a POTUS can possibly be convicted by the Senate of House impeachment after they are no longer in office.

They are going to have to sue/indict Trump the old-fashioned way once he is out of office, and they likely will... unsuccessfully.

 

In the cases of impeachment trial, the Chief Justice presides.
In other cases of impeachment, the VPOTUS presides.

Trump will no longer be president during this trial. Will Harris preside?

 

Not to worry. Your A+++ rated president was impeached for the 2nd time in a calender year.
A+ on being the only president in history to have been impeached 2X and voted out of office in 1 term.

 

The Senate will hold a vote after he's out of office. Not likely to be convicted though. But McConnell is hinting he may vote for conviction. If he does, there's a chance a conviction could occur. Keep your fingers crossed.

 

No, they will not start an impeachment conviction on someone no longer President. What we see will be will typical DC circle-jerk "investigations" amounting to nothing, and attempts at nuisance charges that will amount to nothing... but may require appeal for some time.

They may have been fooled in the moment by media and their own particular DC bubbles over the last several days, but both Democrat and Republican Senators will have plenty of time over the next week to determine the truth that only the MSM and Beltway Insiders, not the voters at large, want this kind of stunt from Congress. The people already hate them as it is, and ANOTHER FAKE impeachment effort after Biden takes office will simply draw MORE attention to Trump and allow him to remain in his "underdog" wheelhouse. They will need to deal with Trump and continue an "orangemanbad" brand that they have sunk tens of billions into over the last four years, and I shudder to think what that may entail. If Trump is somehow martyred, well as Swamp Creep Lindsay Graham admitted, "God help us all!"

Personally, I'm looking forward to the first season of Trump TV, and daily shows with themes such as:

How Do They Make All that MONEY from Politics?
Public Union PR and Other Special Interest Shill Lies of the Day
Funniest MSM Videos Complete with Laugh Track
The Chinese Spy, Shill and Graft Show
The Government Contract and Grant Scam Show
Today in the SEIU, NEA and Teamsters Crime Families
Who are their Donors?
The Big Corporation Graft Hour
The Greedy Lawyer Hour
The War Hawk Show
Reports from the Democrat War on Small Business
The Astroturf Show

Could go on and on.

 

Rumor is they won't whip the vote and just let people vote their conscience.

Another rumor is those republicans who condemned what the president did, while voting no on impeachment, are afraid of being targeted by the insurrectionists.

We're going to learn a lot about this in the next few months. The Congress Critters who gave the people who broke in, private tours the week before?

'Twill be interesting. Interesting times; all that.

 

Legal experts are divided into three camps of opinion, however, on what happens if the president leaves office.

One group says a president can be impeached only while in office. "I tend to believe it is only for current office holders," said Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, author of "Impeachment: A Citizen's Guide."

According to a second group of scholars, if the House votes to impeach while the president is in office, the Senate can proceed to a trial even after the president has left office.

And a third view is that the entire process can begin even after the president is out of office.

"The constitutional case for late impeachment has more strengths and fewer flaws than the case against it," wrote Brian Kalt, a professor at the Michigan State University College of Law in a widely cited law review article on the subject.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...te-impeachment-charges-even-after-he-n1253544

Jury is out, but odds are the Senate can hold hearing after he's out of office.