Melania Trump booed at youth opioid summit in Baltimore

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No, not really, I think prostitution should be legal. OTOH if a pol is supporting laws against prostitution at the same time he's consorting with a prostitute he should be called out as the worst kind of hypocrite.

    I forget, there are some who still actually BELIEVE the smoke and mirrors that abortion is about the child and not the sex:eyepopping:

    In regard to gay marriage why do you think the Republicans are so against it if they don't wish to repress gay sex? Do also think sex is unrelated to who your partner is? Do you think marriage is just about companionship or what?
     
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    Ah! I was looking at the wrong plagiarism allegation which happened last year via a meme containing false information. Yes, it is clear that the instance that you cite above included alot of copying of Michelle Obama's speech, but you can't blame Melania for that can you?
     
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    So your only problem with it is that his wife was delivering their child? Why does that make all the difference for you?

    So abortion is ONLY about the sex?

    As someone who doesn't have a problem with same sex marriage under the law, I've never understood why people are against it, although it's unlikely to be because they want to repress gay sex, considering that gay sex was already happening before introduction of same sex marriage, and there's no evidence to suggest that it has increased after the introduction of same sex marriage.

    I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase?

    Marriage is about alot of different components.
     
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    I was a kid and not even living in the US. I don't really know enough about the case to say if I think he should've been impeached. Considering that you don't think there's anything wrong with cheating, I doubt that you supported or would have supported the impeachment.
     
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    Even if it was an over 18 pageant?

    If morality was the only thing that mattered, then anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If I was also bragging about how I spent all that money largely so could walk into the dressing rooms then yes

    You said it, I didn't.

    Morality as in good and evil, not sexuality, should be a pretty big factor in who you want to be the chief lawmaker for the country I would think. You want somebody like Ronald Reagan, somebody with rock solid integrity coupled with good will and basic human decency to run the nation you love and live in. Trump wouldn't know any of those qualities if he was cheating his way through a golf game with them at Mar-a-shithole
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Because it shows him to be uncaring about a woman he professes to love. If he has so little concern about his life partner how much will he have for the nation. As Ross Perot once said about why he didn't like hiring men who cheated on their wives. "If his wife can't trust him, why should I?"

    Pretty much. If it was about the child it would be fairly simple to establish funds to pay women to carry a child to term and then facilitate its adoption by one of the many thousands of prospective but infertile couples who already pay substantial sums to get a baby here or overseas. Instead most all anti-reproductive freedom people I know are also the first to deny child care and aid to poor mothers if they can. They see sex as immoral and having a child is the punishment for it. Very illogical on many levels but they used to burn women at the stake so I guess they see themselves as having improved.

    People in a gay marriage are assumed to be having gay sex. I contend that is the main reason Republicans are against it, as approving of the institution can very reasonably be seen as approving of gay sex. Republicans don't really care about whether something is effective at stopping something, their main concern is that they don't think the government should approve of anything they don't approve of
     
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    Having been in that area of Baltimore many times (unlike you), that tweet was a fact. No wonder you don’t like it.
     
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    What would you have said if it were a pro-De crowd booing Michelle Obama?
     
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    Fits the definition of plagerism which is the 'taking of someone else's work or ideas and passing it off as your own. '
    I would not bother with noting Melania's plagerism IF Trump fans did not claim that her speech was so great and how wonderful and smart she was based on what she said. You see when I detect phony I point it out.

    Trump fans have lied about her and her family's greatness right from the start. I recall an interview I heard where a Trump fan lied about Melania's father. The fan falsely claim that her dad was an "entrapeneur".
    Truth was that the scrud was a Communist official when Slovenia was part of Communist Yugoslavia. Sure one great entrapeneur the little Commie slug is.

    It all part of the Trump phoneyness and his fans bought into his phonyness.
     
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    How can you blame Melania for her speech which copied some of Michelle Obama's speech?
     
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    Not blaming her for the speech just said it was plagerized. Simple.
     
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    Because it was her speech.

    Or, you can assume she is a ****ing moron high price hooker and I guess, yes, you can't blame her.
     
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    Have you ever heard of a little thing called 'speechwriter?'
     
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    What do you mean "GIVE" Melania?
     
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    And this is different from Bill Clinton, HOW exactly?

    What "funds?"

    You contend it, but is it based on any evidence?
     
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    Are you saying that Trump is evil?
     
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    Typo! Too long ago to remember what word my iPad mangled on me.
     
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    Well why did you bring up the plagiarism thing?
     
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    Because she did plagiarize which would have just slid by if Trump fans did not exaggerate and make her appear to be the female version of Demosthenes or Cicero.
     
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    So she is a robot? Devoid of any and all responsibility?

    Agree.
     
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    Emphatically. He is not a well-meaning incompetent or misguided ideologue, he means positive harm to most of us. This is why one's overall morality should be a pretty big factor in who you vote for, so you don't find yourself being menaced by such a being
     
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    Clinton succumbed to a temptation while his wife was hale and healthy, Trump went out and solicited a prostitute while his wife was delivering a child, a life-threatening procedure.

    Funds which anti-abortionists establish. Most could easily pay into an insurance plan to cover pregnancies which would be terminated otherwise and infertile couples who want children usually pay quite a bit for the service if they get one.

    Why else would they be against gay marriage?
     
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    So Ross Perot would trust Clinton then?

    I'm completely confused. Are you talking about surrogacy or something?

    I've never really known, at least not fully. Many throw out the tired old nonsensical argument of, a child deserves a mother and a father, including non-religious people too, and for the non-religious, their argument doesn't go much further than this because they obviously don't give a Biblical argument. For the religious, they obviously point to the Bible making it clear that marriage is between a man and a women, but for these people, they're not properly considering the difference between religious marriage and legal marriage in my opinion. Anyway, to say that their argument has to be based on homosexual sex, is not sensible and I don't think that you've thought about it properly.
     

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