Merrick Garland wouldn't recommend approval for AG search warrant for Unabomber's cabin: Former FBI

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    It’s pathetic to see adults who are actually pro bullying
     
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    So he’s innocent? Didn’t have docs at his golf course in violation of any law?
    Or you just think he’s above the law?
     
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    You didn't bother reading the whole article, did ya?
     
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    Are attorneys the media? Do you know media is?
     
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    Comey was correct. He personally didn't leak classified information to the media. He passed it to others to do his dirty work for him. I imagine he used his attorneys so that he could invoke an Attorney/client privilege being violated if he was charged.
     
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    He didn’t need to worry, Trump only accuses people of crimes, his DOJ never actually charged any of them lol
     
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    He has made the claim that they were declassified. And some of the documents in question may be attorney client privileged as well. That to me suggests they’re digging up more dirt
     
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    So you think declassified govt docs can be scored at a golf course?
     
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    Nice deflection. You are an example of why citing sources is usually a waste of time. You didn't bother reading through the whole article in your eagerness to claim a "gotcha". There's even more, such as this:
    What gave Comey the authority to give it to his lawyers?

    Or this:
    They are speaking about you. The ones that don't bother to read before hitting that "Post reply" button. It's all about "winning" rather than learning.
     
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    More than likely, lying out of his arse. Remember, he never testified when Garland was being confirmed as DC Circuit Judge, DC Court of Appeals, or Attorney General. three times he had the chance but didn't.

    Second, it just does not make sense. The name Ted Kaczynski was not a name known to the FBI until his brother told them who he was and his beliefs not known to the public. This opccurred after the FBI and DOJ coordinated what to include and what not to include to the public. The FBI does not need a DOJ attorney to approve of any search warrant in those days, except political officials, and they must be in the highest ranking. Once the FBI arrested him, then the DOJ and the lead prosecuting attorney would get involved in the case, not before.

    Both the FBI and DOJ coordinated their efforts before the name was known. There were rumors that it was a foreign agent doing this deliberately, to cause fear and distrust of the everyday surroundings, it was a person who had a grudge against the United States political system because these bombs spanned over several administrations. At first, they thought they were not connected at all, different random attacks, and the list goes on.

    So all Touchie is doing is keeping the sheep in line with a sea tale so to speak.
     
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    I don’t care about Comey. You said he gave it to the media. He didn’t.
    I don’t even know what your point is. He should have been charged? Seems there are lots of criminals trumps DOJ did nothing about. Does that somehow change the laws on the books or mean they’re now unenforceable?
     
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    Do you understand what a proxy is? What's the big deal? Well, if you bothered to read through the whole article (instead of cherry picking for a "gotcha" moment) you would have read this:
    How many agents working under Comey's leadership were corrupted by his lack of integrity? Of course if you don't care about corruption then why care about Comey. But then why do you care about the corruption of Trump? Could it be that's it really not about corruption for you?
     
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    Comey leaked something with zero national security implications. And yah I’m more worried about a guy who’s gonna try to be president again vs a guy who’s career is over.
     
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    So you agree that for you it's not really about corruption per se, but rather about who is corrupt. There's a word for that.
     
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    So you are presenting me the sanitized accounts of the glorious exploits and heroism of the FBI when Garland still held out hope of being a talking head?
     
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    nah You’re confusing me with trump who pardoned all his criminal buddies
     

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    This thread is yet another in a long line of “but, it was our guy so the warrant was political”

    I love how the right no longer believes in national security anymore……..Lock her up…..lock her up……leave him alone….leave him alone….
     
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    It's not a matter of national security, it's a matter of selective enforcement of the justice system. Not only that, but it's selective enforcement that conveniently, very conveniently is seemingly only towards or majorly towards conservatives and very little towards democrats. Now they can convince themselves that it's because they're good darling sweethearts but as we point to numerous example of similar situations, in every such instance there's a squirming of "well, this is different because"

    But if you apply the literal stature of 2071, which gives no qualifications to the removal of documents then it's all the same stuff. For HRC, for Comey, for everyone. So why did Garland lay down the gauntlet? Especially given the retroactive nature of having been okay with a lockpad in June.
     
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    Selective enforcement? Reality Winner did 4 years for one document. I assume if Trump did the same that he should face the same?
    Sessions failure to charge anyone for what you claim are crimes, has nothing to do with Garland.
     
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    Since righties keep deflecting to Hillary and comey…but not Alberto Gonzalez for some reason….

    hillary did not store them properly but had reasonable doubt that she didn’t know they were classified.
    Comey had a secure site built at his house, he didn’t nee to be told he had to buy a lock! Lol
    And both still worked for the govt and didn’t take 18 months to turn things over.
    Hillary was held to the same standard as Alberto Gonzalez, intent was required. Trump will be also, if nobody ever told him this stuff is classified, give it back, he’s probably fine. But that’s almost definitely not true.
     
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    It's not my claim, it's the freaking literal stature of 2071 that the FBI used on the Mar-A-Lago warrant. Under 2071, anyone who removes a document that is of the origin of the US government or relative entities is guilty. It's this clause in particular where classification doesn't matter.

    Shifting it on Sessions doesn't change the hypocritical nature of the reality that we're living in. In this convenient reality, there are those who violated 2071 the same way Trump did, and got an IG lip lashing. Trump violates it and gets federally prosecuted. People are gonna see two tier justice.

    The answer is never violence, btw as I condemn the escalation that happened in Ohio and Phoenix. That goes without saying, but I feel the need to say it and the importance of saying it. For the sake of our country and peace in our country. The answer is to find an AG that will uphold the law for both sides. So if a Liberal politician is caught with sensitive information outside of say for example the House of Reps compartment, I better see a 2071 charge or it's hypocritical.
     
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    I don't agree. Trump is a politician, FPOTUS, while the Unabomber, who was sending bombs since 1978, was just an average joe. Not comparable at all, legally.
     
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    wrong thread
     
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    The warrant was approved by a US Magistrate after his brother identified him. Prior to that date, from 1978 to 1995, no one knew his name or even on their Radar. They had five possible persons of interest, all well-known political extremists.
     
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    Says the person who was a bully in school?
     

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