Migrant Caravans Head to U.S. Border in Early Test for Biden

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Clear, but still nonsense. If your ancestors followed the same guidelines, you wouldn't be here now.
     
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    Obama had a catch and release policy. He caught them, put them in cages for processing, then once they were processed they were released into the United States to await their asylum trial. The median grant of asylum across the country is 11%. Which means the vast majority are sent back to their country of origin (at least for the ones that showed up for their court date). However the wait to get an asylum trial takes roughly 7 years. In that time they are allowed to do whatever they want in the US. That means getting jobs, buying homes, having kids which are then considered legal citizens of the US which complicates the asylum process even more. Including the possibility of separating the parents from the kids if their asylum request is not granted. And it is quite common for those that do get deported to come back into the US illegally. Which then brings up the next point about Obama's stance on illegal immigration. He only went after those that were considered threats, violent felons. All the others he left alone. He even instituted DACA and DAPA. DAPA was ruled unconstitutional and I have no doubt that if DACA had made it to SCOTUS it would have been ruled as such also. Both were written contrary to actual law as implemented by Congress.
     
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    Don't move the goal post. Deal with the topic at hand. If they're truly sealing Asylum, why do they continue to the border?
     
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    Because you have to in order to seek asylum here. I've answered this several times. What aren't you getting?
     
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    Yep! "Rent-a-Kid". Coyotes made tons of money by supplying "children" as needed.

    And if anyone wants to see mobs of illegal alien invaders pouring across our Southern Borders WITH IMPUNITY, spend an afternoon finding DOZENS of videos of them coming in from busses and trains, on foot, and through tunnels. THAT was encouraged by Obama's unwillingness to do anything that even tried to stop (STOP) the illegal invasion of OUR country.

    So, again, what, if anything, will Biden do differently?
     
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    Again, if they're really sealing asylum, why do they go on that jounry alllll the way to the US boder? And not stop in Mexico? They dont' have to ask the US goverment in Mexco for Asylum.
     
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    Hmmm “newsmax is a “questionable source”


    Whilst “bllombergquint” appears to be an Indian news site with a dodgy history
     
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    Because they are seeking (not "sealing") asylum here. Not Mexico. How is this difficult to understand?
     
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    So you're not getting it. If they're really need and seaking asylum. They woudn't go all the way north to the US border. They would stop in Mexico and get away from whatever it is they're seaking asylum for. Its a backdoor way to get all the way to the border.
     
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    They want asylum in someplace with more opportunities?
     
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    Is it just me or is this smelling to Vladivostok? The last time we heard about caravans was 2016
     
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    So you are not getting that. In order to seek asylum, you need to seek asylum in another country. Not just the first country you come across. Are you really going to pretend that you are too daft to understand that?
     
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    They are too busy faking "international laws" to think critically about this, unfortunately.
     
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    I've allready addressed that in 4 or 5 posts.
     
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    And it dosn't work that way.
     
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    Maybe they feel they’ll have a better chance of getting asylum here. Maybe they want asylum and also better opportunities?
     
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    If that's what you want to tell yourself, fine. There is no moral, legal, or rational justification for saying that a person MUST seek their asylum in the closest available country. It's, at best, a brain fart.
     
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    Says who? Are you saying we don’t grant asylum to anyone who traveled through another nation?
     
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    Yeah. Actually, it does. And your ancestors believed so, or else you wouldn't be here. But keep faking.
     
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    Again I'lve allready addressed it. If they're trutly seeking Asylum. and they're in true danger in they home country, they wouldn't be going allllll the way through Mexico to the US border?
     
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    Moving the goal post again. Not how asylum works.
     
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    So transparent. You don't like the news, so, cast doubt on the source? You can find many other sources that confirm the caravans are forming already.

    Ha! Wait until spring when the mobs show up! What will ol' Joe do? Piss off the hyperliberal, America-hating Left that got him elected? VERY doubtful.

    But it will be fun to watch -- IF the "news" media even allow it to be reported as the tragedy unfolds....

    BTW, Newsmax is a very reliable news source that is gaining more and more readers and viewers all the time!
     
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    Now tell us all WHY it is the responsibility of American citizen taxpayers to have to CARE what masses of penniless foreign peasants WANT?
     
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    Pretty tough to control illegal immigration with all border sanctuary states and cities created under Mr. Obatard..

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    Except it is. It's exactly how asylum works. Sorry that this is inconvenient for your xenophobia.
     
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