Millennials say no to kids, population 'replacement level' turns negative

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  1. glloydd95

    glloydd95 Well-Known Member

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    Lol...ok, that was funny, I don't care who you are.
     
  2. Russell Hellein

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    While many things go into this a bad job environment is a big driver of this and a focus on personal income security.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. My wife and I choose to not have kids. I like our dual income, no kids lifestyle. The people I see in public with children looks like misery to me.
     
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    Well, it can't be that complicated. Marxism doesn't leave a lot of room for free will, where even cultural endeavors are said to be determined by class interests.
     
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    I would rather have it switched and have 50/50 genetics and still mostly culturally anglo. It is undeniable that anglo culture is superior to hispanic culture at least in terms of politics where virtually every Latin American country is a corrupt psuedo-democratic police state. My opposition to unfettered immigration stems not from skin color or genes but from cultural values and money being sent out of country. When Europeans emigrated here they brought "Europe" with them which is mostly good in regards to politics, philosophy, science etc. When masses of Mexicans emigrate here they bring "Mexico" which is a crappy, dysfunctional country and they siphon of $25 billion a year and sent it back to that dump of a country.
     
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    :eekeyes: You've never heard of birth control, contraceptives, vasectomies? Really!!??:roll:
     
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    Marxism isn't a faith, there's no canon and plenty of room for dissent
     
  8. Concord

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    Well, to say that there is an "Anglo culture" is a little simplistic, if necessary to get the point across.

    The fact of the matter is that north Mexican culture is not particularly anathema to our political system. People forget that it wasn't just Anglos who fought the Mexicans in the various wars of independence in the 19th century. Even south of the Rio Grande, Hispanics joined the cause.

    North Mexican culture is capitalistic, individualistic, and distrustful of central government.

    In other words, they're not gonna bring anti-republican ideals to the fore.

    They're not going to make us poorer, and they're not going to ruin our political establishment. They're going to be a major part of our Republic though. The tension will certainly be there.

    I believe that history is, for the most part, written for us. But if there's a single issue on which I hope we can buck the trend, it is Anglo-Mexican relations in North America. This is the matter that will determine the soul of our republic.
     
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    Yeah, that room is typically called "non-Marxism."

    It's one think to dissent on a minor point here and there. To dissent regarding the material causes of history seems to be another matter.
     
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    Over 100 million dead under bolshevik communism don't agree.
     
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    With a few differences we are pretty much British. We don't have France's and Germany's tendency towards centralized government. Thankfully we don't have Italy's work ethic and so on. We won the lottery when the Brits beat out the French and Spanish for dominance here.
     
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    What does Millennial decisions to have kids have to do with Marxism. That one really loses me... Millennials probably don' know what Marxism was.
     
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    You better learn Spanish! lol
     
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    There are senses in which this is true, but it's more accurate to say that we're an offshoot of a few British subcultures with some traits of other cultures and some developments of our own.
     
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    If you're referring to the conversation between Google and myself, his view of the future of humanity doesn't jive with his presumed Marxist beliefs.
     
  16. Russell Hellein

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    Ok. I don't think there are many Marxist left. There are people who believe in a stronger state, but that is not the same thing as Marxist who have a specific set of beliefs. Further many conservative, authoritarians believe in a strong government.
     
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    I never said there was no genetic component. I said the idea that a child will always have an IQ that is the average between that of his two parents is superstition. That isn't how genetics works. You don't just get the average between the traits of your parents. How is this news to people?
     
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    I don't think there are any Marxists left, just some poor confused souls who don't understand Marxism.
     
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    Millennials can't afford to have kids since they have been BURDENED with massive college debts and also have to support their aging parents whose 401k's have been looted by the Wall Street Casino Bosses.
     
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    There are a few in academics. They argue about what language means and created reality.
     
  21. Concord

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    Right, neo-Marxists. I don't take their "Marxist" credentials too seriously.

    As I've said before, I view Marxism as essentially a theory of history. Anything that drops this aspect is hardly Marxism. Maybe Marx-influenced.
     
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    Nope. They're taking Texas.
     
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    Who is making the argument that "idea that a child will always have an IQ that is the average between that of his two parents?"

    I don't think anyone argued that.
     
  24. Russell Hellein

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    Marxism as it existed in the 20th century was primarily driven by Lenin, Mao, and Stalin. Marx thought the state would not exist
     
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    Kids are very expensive. Housing is entirely too expensive. Government regulations have made vehicles too expensive. Food is constantly at all time highs.

    No wonder they aren't having kids.
     
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