Minn. woman has taken Hydroxychloroquine 19 Yrs.STILL GOT COVID -!9.

If Trump had said it did not work, the liberals would be falling all over themselves buying it.

A number of hospital workers take it for the same reason Trump does. There is a good chance it will lessen the severity, if they get Covit-19.

 

She has lupus....her autoimmune system is already very compromised.....the virus loves people with compromised immune systems like that.

 

They are treatments...not cures...a vaccine would be a cure....surely you know the difference between a treatment and a vaccine???

 

Besides, hydroxychloroquine is freely water soluble like Gatorade, so if it did work prophylactically against covid-19 as a stand alone you would have to take it from now on. It passes out the urinary tract like vitamin C and shugafree Gatorade.

 

Yeah, well I ate too much estrogen in my food for decades and my penis is still 12'' and rock hard... since we are going to do dueling fallacies.

 

searched high and low to find one didn't ya?

 

Well yeah, I just learned the word outside of everyday usage since the pandemic, and just to be sure looked it up in Dorland's: prophylactic - tending to ward off disease.

 

As an anti-malarial drug, people take Hydroxychloroquine before going to a region where malaria is common. Taking it in this manner as a prophylactic reduces the chances of catching malaria by about 90%.
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/malaria-pills#1

With that being the case, your conclusion that this woman in Minnesota somehow proves that hydroxychloroquine does "absolutely nothing" to protect someone, is clearly nonsensical. Nobody has claimed or implied that its prophylactic benefit is supposed to be 100%, except for you of course.

 

The pharmacological underpinning of this is questionable as it is still an untested hypothesis

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720306435

 

COVID is NOT malaria
But I think the point the OP is making is that anecdotal evidence, which is been floated to support HCQ can be found both sides of the argument

 

How in the world does not accepting a patent medicine ( and in this case it is a patent medicine) make someone a leftist? I should just believe everything I am told by laymen? Or does everyone that does not agree with everything you say a leftist?

 

The sad truth is that some survive and some die. But thankfully most survive.

 

Did somebody say that Covid is malaria?...no. Then why are you arguing against a point that was not raised?

The reason that I mentioned Malaria is because that is Hydroxychloroquines well established purpose from a prophylactic (disease prevention) purpose. Since the mention of the Minnesota woman from the OP was in regards to its potential prophylactic properties in regards to Covid, it is perfectly logical to correctly point out that its prophylactic qualities for Malaria are not 100%; therefore it is irrational to expect it to be 100% for Covid.


....and NO, the OP's point was NOT that anecdotal evidence can be found on both sides of this issue. He said nothing of the sort. If he had said a measured statement such as that, I most certainly would not have bothered to respond. His expressly worded point was that the woman in Minnesota "tends to prove, rather conclusively, that taking this drug does absolutely nothing to protect someone from getting this hideous virus." My reply successfully shot his theory to pieces.

Why dont you let him speak for himself rather than YOU falsely putting words into his mouth when he said nothing even remotely close to your claim?

 

Someone with an autoimmune disease almost died from a virus?

I'm shocked.

 

From your
First: But whether these drugs will help, hurt or do nothing remains an open question.
Second: Researchers found that taking the drugs together, along with the antibiotic azithromycin, increased patient's chances of being discharged and decreased their risk of dying.It did not, however, change the average time patients spent in hospital, how long they spent on a ventilator or the total amount of oxygen required. Might help IF you already have it but not prevent.
Third: No Study Results Posted on ClinicalTrials.gov for this Study
Fourth: An opinion piece with no clinical information

To summarize: One says testing and maybe helps if you already have it and are one a ventilator, Two say testing but no results, one is an opinion piece.

Pretty sure either you didn't look at these sources or you thought we wouldn't.

In any case, no indication that any combination of these drugs serves as a preventative.

 

There is no evidence that it prevents infection and sketchy evidence that it helps those severely ill.

Pretty sure you were most accurate with your first three words. There was no need for further comment.

 

Please read my post again. I’ve not said any of the things you attribute to me. If you want to discuss what I’ve actually said, I’m here waiting.

 

One example but it’s not proof. They’re running the drug through trials so we’ll have those results in a few months.

Sure. The President is dangerously reckless, will say anything, and believes he knows more than he does.

 

You guys all love to say this, but it's nonsense. I think a lot of folks don't oppose the drug, they oppose it's recommendation by a non-doctor moron who has no professional experience in the medical field and who, especially at the time, didn't even have access to clinical trial information about it's effectiveness as a treatment.

If it works, great! Lets use it! But that's not what the science has shown us, unfortunately. And I truly mean unfortunately, because no amount of politics is worth opposing an effective treatment. But this is not being shown to be an effective treatment.

 

A vaccine is not a cure. A disease must be present for a drug to cure it. A vaccine is of no help if the disease is already present.

 

So you -don't-, then, oppose its recommendation by the thousands of doctors and world class epidemiologists recommending it, using it to great results as we speak, right? Just when Orangeman recommends it?

 

Show me these thousands of doctors and world class epidemiologists. And, are they recommending it because they know it works, or because it can't hurt to try?

 

It will prevent the virus from effecting you

 

A vaccine will be of no use if you are already infected with the virus!

 

I know that’s why we have treatments. A vaccine will cure it for people not infected