Minneapolis officer's attorney alleges George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl, says charges should be dr

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  1. liberalminority

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    it was both, people high on fentanyl are not allowed to resist arrest.
     
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    I'm citing the official medical report, pulmonary edema, he was going to die before he even hit the ground. He caused his own death.
     
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    I just cited the notes from the release, he did not die of asphyxiation, he was OD'd on drugs along with his pre-existing heart condition brought on a pulmonary edema.
     
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    Post that report.
     
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    Repeatedly posted to you.
     
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    You hadn't posted anything to me, the 2 autopsy reports don't claim what you are saying.
     
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    Scroll back
     
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    Yeah. Did you read it.

    You know, the part where he had lethal doses of at least two drugs in his system.
     
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    Where does it say that is what killed him?
     
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    Right here.


    George Floyd 20-3700 Page 2 III.

    No life-threatening injuries identified

    A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae
    B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures
    C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries
    D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries
    E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma
     
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    No where in any of that does it say the cause of death was drugs. Try again.
     
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    They were also yelling , “he din do nothin.” As that dude at Wendy’s was running away there are people on video that stood there watching him fight the cops off and shoot a taser at them, claiming “he din do nothin!!!”
     
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    Of course it does.

    He had no life threatening injuries to his body and lethal doses of two separate drugs in his system.

    Are you saying the cop asphyxiated him to death without causing injury?

    Did he use the Force or something?
     
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    Post where the report says, Cause of death was drugs.
     
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    What part of "lethal dose" and "no life threatening injuries" is confusing?
     
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    The part where it doesn't say that was the cause of death.
     
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    Is the word "lethal" confusing?
     
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    The autopsy did not say asphyxiation, nor did anyone in this thread say that it said asphyxiation. The cause of death according to the autopsy report from the medical examiner was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

    The autopsy also classified the manner of death as "homicide"

    The autopsy did NOT say that he OD'd, that is a completely false statement. The autopsy did however list drug intoxication and his pre-existing heart condition as "Other significant conditions", but again neither of those conditions were listed as the cause of death, and at no point did ANY medical professional who examined the subject conclude that he OD'd.
     
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    His cardiopulmonary arrest began BEFORE he was on the ground, while he was sitting in the car and no one touching him and the notes say he would probably be dead had he been siting at home watching TV from the OD. His lungs had filled with fluid and were 2x to 3x their normal size.
     
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    No CAUSE is.
     
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    It seems so.

    I mean if you read "lethal dose" along with "no life threatening injuries" and don't understand what killed him, I don't know how it can be explained to you any better.
     
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    Let me wade through the waters here. Essentially, the report says that the restraints certainly added complications but he was already fatally ill before they restrained him.

    Further, if it can't be proven that they knew what drugs or what dose, it'll be pretty hard to get a manslaughter charge to stick.
     
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    Which doesn't really matter, as the police were required to apprehend him, had no knowledge of his fatal dosage of 2 different drugs, and did everything they could to get him to comply.
     
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    That is not even close to accurate, what the medical examiner actually said was "If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD“

    And no, these were not notes in the autopsy report, this is what the medical examiner told investigators when questioned about the possibility of an overdose. He then added that he did not believe that this was the cause of death
     

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