Minneapolis officer's murder charge to be upgraded in George Floyd death, 3 others charged: report

I already found that the accusation of abuse by his former wife in the course of a divorce fight did not prove abuse.

The ANTIFA crap is on the surface very troublesome but I am taking the time to research the facts myself before I decide if Ellison needs to be brought up on charges.

You know why I do not b live anything a POTUS T fan tells me or shows me? Just look at the the filth that Trump fans have posted about Gen. Mattis. Looks at the support for POTUS T 's lies that his fans echo and how they fail to condemn. That sir is not only putting fingers in ears but is also covering the eyes. Sad how sad.

 

You're claiming the officer intended to kill Floyd aren't you?

 

"We will charge all that the facts and the law allows." Minnesota AG Keith Ellison.

That's perfect and nothing more can be asked in any criminal case.

If the facts and the law pointed to a likely conviction I'm quite sure the charge would have been murder 1. But the AG is going to avoid risk of a mistrial or a not guilty verdict.

As to the case, Ellison is doing a good job.

 

So you've already convicted the police here and if they are found not guilty for WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN CHARGED it will be because of this thin blue line or unethical jurors. I heard similar assertions based on most cases officers are found not guilty therefore it means they were really guilty but got off because it should be 50-50 or something. Maybe it is because in the vast vast vast majority the officers DID use justifiable force and it was the victim who created the scenario in which they died as tragic as it was.

 

There should he no troublesome period, he should recuse himself instead of trying to tale the spotlight.

 

This is your rationale for ignoring reality? That's sad. It's a lame excuse. Blame the right for your choice to maintain ignorance about Ellis and his affinity for AntiFa. It's Trump's fault you don't accept the truth. Right. LOL. That's a stupid reason.

 

Was it just me, or did anyone else notice how diverse the group of responding officers in Minneapolis were. Astounding that if black lives matter, that the black officer or the asian officer didn't intervene or protest during the event. I think this is going to become very problematic for the race hustlers out there. Note, the race hustlers are out there making bank on the backs of the dead, but it has to be the right dead. It might still turn out that this will blow up once again in their faces.

 

I posted what the charges were. That is it.

 

Recuse himself from what?

 

Prosecuting the case, you were confused?

 

I wonder if the black officer that was arrested was racist?

 

2nd degree requires intent.

 

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/minnesota-law/minnesota-second-degree-murder.html

Sort of. In this case he's going to be charged under the felony murder analog Minnesota keeps in its 2nd degree statute.
"Causing someone’s death without intending the death of anyone, while committing a felony other than criminal sexual conduct (rape or sexual assault which would be first-degree murder) or a drive-by shooting".


All they have to prove is the felony of agg assault, and the intent to commit THAT felony will qualify him for 2nd degree because a man died in the commission of the felony. Its not going to be overly difficult to prove the underlying felony, watch the tape. The crowd gainsays him, and you can watch him nut up and decide he's not moving because the crowd demands it. The other cops gainsay him 3 times: He doesn't move and instructs that all should remain as it is. He was senior IE in in command.
One of them tells them he's getting no pulse: he remains on the man for 3 more minutes.
In MN agg assault is that assault which does cause serious harm to the victim. They nest it under "assault" with varying degrees. https://statelaws.findlaw.com/minnesota-law/minnesota-assault-laws.html Its agg assault and a man is dead thereby: That makes the felon a murderer in the 2nd degree in MN.

 

Right. "We will charge all that the facts and the law allows." MN AG Keith Ellison.

 

Except

“Simple” Assault

In Minnesota, an assault is defined as the act of intentionally inflicting bodily harm, attempting to inflict bodily harm, or acting in a way that causes fear of bodily harm.

“Aggravated” Assault

Aggravated assault is one that often features prominently in the media. Aggravated assault carries the intent to cause bodily harm with the use of a deadly weapon that could include a gun, a motorized vehicle, or another object like a bat. As a result, the person must have caused temporary or permanent injury.
https://www.keyserdefense.com/simple-vs-aggravated-assault-in-minnesota/#:~:text=Aggravated assault carries the intent,caused temporary or permanent injury.&text=In Minnesota, assault becomes a felony when significant bodily harm occurs.

The AG will have to convince the jury that Chauvin while being videoed by several people from several angles decided he wanted to kill Floyd. That that was his intention. You know in a drive by shooting the intent is usually to kill.

 

Actually, I have not spoken to the George Floyd case at all. I spoke about the hurdles prosecutors normally face trying to bring charges that will stick against a police officer. About 2/3 of people who are charged with a felony, actually get convicted, not '50/50' All the data I have found, suggests that the percentage of convictions is far lower in cases which involve a cop.

 

Only if the jury is composed of killer thug cop lovers and then you will really see some riots around the country that will make these look like a snow ball fight.

 

For God's sake man, I cannot educate you if you won't read the *******ned statutes that I link you to.

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/minnesota-law/minnesota-assault-laws.html

• Section 609.02 (Simple Assault)
• Section 609.224 (Fifth Degree Assault)
• Section 609.2231(Fourth Degree Assault)
• Section 609.223(Third Degree Assault)
• Section 609.222 (Second Degree Assault)
• Section 609.221(First Degree Assault)

Assault Charges



Fifth Degree:

• Intent to cause fear of bodily injury or death, or
• Intentionally inflicting, or attempting to inflict, bodily harm.

Fourth Degree:

• Assault on a certain class of victims including, but not limited to, police officers, fire fighters, and school officials.

Third Degree:

• Inflicting substantial bodily harm; punishable by up to 5 years and/or fines up to $10,000.
• Assaulting a minor and the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of child abuse against the minor; punishable by up to 5 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $10,000.
• Assaulting a victim who is under age 4 and causing bodily harm to the child's head, eyes, or neck, or causing multiple body bruises; punishable by up to 5 years and/or fines up to $10,000.

Second Degree:

• Using a dangerous weapon; punishable by up to 7 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $14,000.
• Using a dangerous weapon and inflicting substantial bodily harm; punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $20,000.

First Degree:

• Inflicting great bodily harm; punishable by up to 20 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $30,000.
• Using deadly force against peace officer, prosecuting attorney, judge, or correctional employee while the person is performing their duties; punishable by up to 20 years and/or fines up to $30,000.

"
https://codes.findlaw.com/mn/crimes-expungement-victims-ch-609-624/mn-st-sect-609-223.html
^ the full text of 3rd degree.

Now read FIRST, then respond.

Emphasis mine. 3rd degree there applies to assaults which end up causing actual substantial bodily harm, as well as to certain crimes against minors. 2nd degree murder in MN has a limb that punishes homicides during the commission of certain felonies (like 3rd degree assault). To prove that 2nd degree murder limb, you prove the underlying felony and intent to commit the underlying felony. You are not required to prove intent to kill.

 

The officers couldn't find a better defense lawyer than you....

 

I don’t care if you think I am a real American or not, you simply don’t have an argument so you attack whether or not I am American. The reality is you have been proven wrong, you are on the wrong side of history, and I think deep down you know that which is why you simply attack me instead of any of my arguments

 

They might try one who holds a law license and actually knows the predicates required to be proven to catch 2nd degree murder in MN actually. He's not doing a very good job.

 

I actually only if the jury is reasonable and capable of setting aside their emotions. You and the rest of the overly emotional are not doing justice by trying to drum up charges. Manslaughter is an appropriate charge for the one who had his knee on the back of his neck.

 

Well doesn't every defendant deserve the best they can get? Under our system does not guilt have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt?

You're claiming the officer intended to kill Floyd aren't you?

 

2nd degree stemming from a homicide which occurred during a felony does not require proof of intent to kill. Only proof of the underlying felony, in this case 3rd degree assault (assault which actually does cause serious bodily injury) under the laws of MN

 

It's not me it's Minnesota defense attorneys. This is about the upgrading to Second Degree not about Third Degree. And that it was an Aggravated Assault which ramps it to 2nd Degree.

From your own cite

Second Degree:

• Using a dangerous weapon; punishable by up to 7 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $14,000.
• Using a dangerous weapon and inflicting substantial bodily harm; punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment and/or fines up to $20,000.

“Aggravated” Assault

Aggravated assault is one that often features prominently in the media. Aggravated assault carries the intent to cause bodily harm with the use of a deadly weapon that could include a gun, a motorized vehicle, or another object like a bat. As a result, the person must have caused temporary or permanent injury.
What was the dangerous weapon Chauvin used?