Mitt Romney tells donors Palestinians 'have no interest' in peace in new video

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  1. Dingo44

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    The Palestinians are a bunch of savages who still live in the 9th century., along with all the other muslim countries proclaiming "Jihad" and the destruction of Israel and the West. They never want peace, they say it themselves, they want the entire world to be Muslim and kill anyone who isn't. Israel is just an absorber of their Jihad mentality. If Israel didn't exist, these barbarians would be exporting more of their terrorism to Europe and the US, and anyone else who wasn't Muslim. And the US and Israel are the intolerant ones.
     
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    Every single peace conference? The most recent one I can remember was in 2007 or 2008, in Annapolis.
     
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    When's the last time they went a YEAR without firing a SINGLE ROCKET/MISSILE into Israel?
     
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    Beats me. When was the last time Israel went a year without aggressively pushing their way into territories they no longer own to build settlements they aren't supposed to build?
     
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    It is amazing how American media has so distorted the reporting of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

    Seems most americans think that the palestinians are to blame and the Israel (the regions only democracy) is merely trying to survive.
    That just isn't reality.

    Sure the palestinians have been burdened by incompetant and corrupt leadership (arafat was a murderous pig) and have been used as a political "chess" piece by their arab brethren. Their supposed intransigence on so many of the issues is well known, but both the PLO, PA and Hamas have all foresworn their early overriding objective of the liberation of all of historic palestine (a euphamism for Israel's destruction). Of course US media didn't report those developments.

    When you look at Israel, Netanyahu's likud party garnered 22% of the vote. He formed a coalition government with some of seriously right wing religious whackos
    who are as hateful as the worst Islamist just not quite as violent. Netanyahu and friends want to annex all of the West Bank, that is they want to either a remove the 1.7 milion palestinans currently living there or let them stay as second class citizens with very limited self government. don't think that gets reported in the US.
    We wont go into the fact that Netanyahu is also a consummate liar - smiling for the cameras claiming that Israel is peace loving and is willing to disuss peace.
    Except that his published party platform states quite clearly that he totally rejects a palestinian state anywhere west of the Jordan - thats doubletalk for get the hell out of the west bank.

    Now Hamas, A terrorist organization. But I don't think anyone can find a single attack by Hamas that was not against Israeli interests in Israel and Palestine. they haven't launched any foreign attacks. They are fighting Israel.

    As freedom loving americans ask yourself if you lived in an occupied land living under military law, having your movements severly restricted, being humiliated and oppressed every day by IDF soldiers that have barely learned how to shave and who seem to enjoy arbitarily detaining ordinary palestinians at any one of dozen and dozens of security checkpoints, who find whole neighbourhoods cut off by road closures for "security reasons", where an ordinarly five minute walk turns in to an all day ordeal. Occupation is not pretty and the Israelis are very unpleasant occupiers and bullies.

    so you think if it was you getting pushed around every day that you might want ot fight back. that you might want to resist the occupation? that you might want to lash out because Israel keeps taking land and building settlements? that you might want to defend yourself from brutal attacks by religious fanatic settlers? I recall the days when we used to call people fighting occupation and oppression resistance and freedom fighters. Now it seems they are called terrorists.

    No, there's is alway room in a US publication to point out outlandish palestinian behaviour or attack or over the top rhetoric, but for some reason there is very very little reportage of the sins (and there are a lot of them) of the IDF.

    It isn't black and white. Israel is not the guy in the white hat here. They are as hypocritical as the palestinians when it comes to peace negotiations, but palestinans always get the blame. Israel can break cease fire agreements with seeming impunity, but when the palestinians do it, everyone points at them and calls the savage terrorists. Israel can grossly mistreat palestinians in the name of security and americans are totally and completely indifferent under the mistaken impression that the palestinians deserve their fate.

    Be that as it may, but the average palestinian does not deserve to be treated as they currently are by the Israelis.
    And if Netanyahu is pissed off with America or Obama, then trust me thats a good thing. Hes full of bluster and desperately need his American ally. so when he wants america to blow up iran for him, america should tell him they pass.
     
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    Fair enough;

    Hamas kept to the 2008 ceasefire.

    The PA has been cooperating with the IDF since the turn of the century.

    The PA has been cooperating with the IDF on water since the turn of the century.

    The PA has been cooperating with the IDF on electricity upgrading since the turn of the century.

    The PA has been cooperating with the IDF on legal infrastructure since the turn of the century.

    Okey dokey?

    Perhaps in this light you could explain to us why Israel keeps building settlements in the West Bank?

    Now carry on........no wait.. look conservative americans just forget it, youre really not up for this debate about Palestinians and peace, you just dont do the research so again JUST FORGET IT.
     
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    He is 100% correct! He nailed Islamonazi policy in one sentence. He will be a great president.
     
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    You disturb me.
     
  10. creation

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    Yes these people are disturbing but this thread is over, they have no argument to make.
     
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    They are called terrorist and not freedom fighters because they purposefully target woman and children. Big difference. Just like the IRA are freakin' terrorist too cause they blew up pubs, buses, etc.. in London back in the day.

    The difference was England actually invaded, occupied and oppressed a sovereign nation for centuries, not some tribal land where Jews AND Arabs have shared land since man learned how to farm and heard animals. And the IRA are still considered terrorists, so what does that make the Palestinians? They're not even worthy of the name terrorists, more like animals that have learned to speak and set off a bomb attached to their chests with the hope they'll get 72 virgins.

    How can anybody support those ignorant barbarians?
     
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    Exactly. The palestinians REFUSED THEIR LAND in the 1948 partition, and joined the arabs around Israel in trying to DESTROY Israel instead.

    JORDAN and SYRIA have the palestinians' land...not Israel...meanwhile the "oppressed" palestinians, who couldn't grow a WEED, continue to launch 200-400 rockets per month ito Israel, where the people actually can GROW FOOD....
     
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    Ireland was a sovereign nation before it was invaded now was it?

    Perhaps you should stop commenting here anymore, your ignorant blather and unwillingness to engage thoughtfully in the subject disturbs me.
     
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    Um no they didnt refuse their land at all. They didnt want it divided and as the vast majority of people in every single district they had that moral claim to see it not divided. Andd there was no Israel at the time, just areas where a collection of jewish refugees had arrived to take over.

    And the arab armies arrived later to save the palestinians from the Jewish who were ethnically cleansing the area.

    And palestinians could grow alot, before and during mandate times Palestine was the largest cash crop producer in the area.

    Any further questions you would like answered Ill be happy to oblige.
     
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    Romney is right. There is no evidence of anykind whatsoever that the Islamonazi losers in the middle east want peace of anykind with anyone ever. The believe other wise is the suspend disbelief entirely.
     
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    Consider the demographic of Boca Raton.
     
  17. Dingo44

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    Perhaps your transparency of your position defending the barbarian Palestinians will be better hidden had you not commented on such a trivial part of my point. Sovereign nation, loose conglomeration of kingdoms with a high-king around the 8th century before the Normans invaded in 1169 and wasn't completely conquered until the turn of the 17th century where HALF of the Irish population was slaughtered by the English. Then the trouble really started when the Act of Union was passed in 1800.

    So yeah, sovereign nation/kingdom. Point is you're position is so untenable that you focus on semantics to discredit any opposition.

    Your ignorant blather and unwillingness to engage thoughtfully in the subject disturbs me.
     
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    How did you change my post?
     
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    Palestinians gave up their rights when they joined their arab bretheren in several genocidal wars to drive the Jews into the sea and are now paying the price for that. The Jews cannot be secure without the West Bank under their control. To allow the Palestinians to have it completely is to allow the existence of a possible spring board for the future arab israeli war which we all know is going to happen as soon as the arabs have a widespread and meaningful nuclear deterrent.

    The Israeli desire for the west bank is not about "religion" it is about security. Muslims cannot be trusted.
     
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    Thats not true at all. Islamonazi loserism is a violent and murderous political religious system and they specialize in injustice. Truth is inarguable.
     
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    Whats more, the new Israeli nation wanted to include the so-called Palestinians in government and society. But the Islamonazi's spit on them and started a war that has not yet ceased.
     
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    The Israelis should pay the Islamo's fair market value for their property, and if they own none pay them some amount, round them all up and escort them to the nearest Islamo border and tell them never to return to Israel, it is intolerable that Israel permits a commited enemy to live within their nation. Yes, I support a one state solution becase it is the only solution. Everything else is compromise and empowering terrorism.
     
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    You are right 100%. NO truer words have ever been typed.
     
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    Complete nonsense.

    Ill happily answer your questions.
     
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    Crevald the noted Israeli military historian says the West Bank provides NO security for Israel.

    Remember that in 1948 the European Zionist owned about 7% of the land or a little less. They took the land from the Palestinians. Consider your reaction if your property were confiscated and given to immigrants.
     

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