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  1. normalguy23

    normalguy23 New Member

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    He wasnt shot in the frontal lobe. There are pictures of the jfk autopsy and there is a picture of the entry wound which is in the back of the head. Clint Hill the agent that you see running up to the vehicle after the shot said he was hit in the back of the head.

    jfk.jpg

    Do you not see the hole in the back of the head. That is not what an exit wound looks like.
    I can post what an exit wound looks like but it is not pretty.
     
  2. Brother Jonathan

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    Kennedy's head went back and to the left when he was shot in the front temporal lobe. You can deny it all you want. It is obvious at 6:40 in the video. I know what I see. The JFK autopsy was done in Washington even though Texas had jurisdiction. William Bruce Pitzer was killed in 1966 to cover up the truth about the head wound.
     
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    Explain the existence of blood, bone and brain matter in the front section of the car, on the back of agent Greer's jacket....if the shot came from the front.
     
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    uh....yeah, no. There is no evidence that Pitzer was killed/murdered as you imply. You just need to frame his death that way to enhance your conspiracy claim.
     
  5. Brother Jonathan

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    There was more than one shot. It is obvious in the Zapruder film, that was hidden for nearly a decade, that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from the front, and hit him in the right temporal lobe which made his head go back and to the left. Watch it for yourself.
    @6:40,
    [video=youtube;VI07govlUqI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI07govlUqI[/video]

    Also, to all you people who believe Oswald acted alone ask yourself why there is a controversy about JFK's assassination? There wouldn't be if a proper transparent investigation would have been done. It is because there was a cover up. Texas had jurisdiction and they wanted to perform the autopsy. The Feds would not let them. The car was crime scene evidence but it went straight to Michigan to be refurbished rather than investigated. And somehow they knew Oswald did it 45 minutes after Kennedy was shot. How did they know that? There was no investigation only accusation at that time and Oswald was killed two days later by Jack Ruby, an acquaintance of Nixon, who pointed the finger at Johnson.
     
  6. Brother Jonathan

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    My claim is that you people who believe that Oswald acted alone are lazy nutjobs who believe whatever the government tells you.
     
  7. Brother Jonathan

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    It does matter how his head snapped. The head shot to Kennedy's right front temporal lobe can be seen again at 13:30 and his head snapped back and to the left which is consistent with a shot from the front. You have to be blind to not see it.

    You ignore the fact that Texas had jurisdiction to perform the autopsy. The Feds wouldn't let them. Why? There has been an obvious cover up. The photos you show have been altered. Tom Wilson demonstrates in this video that there was an entrance wound at the right temporal lobe consistent with the movement of Kennedy's head and he shows the path the bullet fragments took in his head and he follows up with examination of the autopsy photo which has been manipulated.

    You can believe whatever you want to believe. To convince me you are going to have to do better than offer the official explanation because we know that is a lie.
     
  8. Perilica grad Ameriku

    Perilica grad Ameriku Banned

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    Nobody cares what you claim. We only care about what you can demonstrate with evidence and reason. And since you have proven incapable or unwilling to demonstrate anything with evidence or reason, you leave us exactly nothing to care about at all.
     
  9. Perilica grad Ameriku

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    Actually, no. It doesn't.

    The forensic evidence of the body proves this interpretation to be wrong. The shot was from behind.

    Next?

    Because he was the President of the United States and they wanted to get his body back to Washington.

    And yet, you offer no evidence of that.

    Or not.
     
  10. Brother Jonathan

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    If nobody cared what I claimed, then nobody would be replying to my posts. If you don't even know there was a cover-up of JFK's assassination, then what are you doing replying to this thread? The cover-up is obvious with only a cursory study. Is TV your only source of information? Are you really claiming that Tom Wilson is not demonstrating evidence, logic, and reason in his assessment of the assassination?

    [video=youtube;VI07govlUqI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI07govlUqI[/video]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI07govlUqI
     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    Yeah they did and fast before anyone could examine it. They also wanted his car refurbished as swiftly as possible too. Can't have people looking at crime scene evidence.
     
  12. Karma Mechanic

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    Your claim is based on silliness. Just because we believe the facts as laid out does not mean that we believe whatever the government tells us. We can be both skeptical and correct.
     
  13. Brother Jonathan

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    You don't have the facts as laid out. If you believe the official story then you are just as crazy as any other conspiracy theorist.
     
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    Exactly..
     
  15. Brother Jonathan

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    The initial reports on November 22, 1963 described a massive exit wound in the back of Kennedy's head.

    [video=youtube;gsMKMMlleOE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsMKMMlleOE[/video]
     
  16. LogicallyYours

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    So what?...those same reports also had Jackie wounded, Connelly dying and LBJ having a heart attack.

    Trying to claim something based on initial reports from a chaotic event is flawed.
     
  17. Brother Jonathan

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    The initial report came from the attending physicians at Parkland Hospital where Kennedy was first taken.

     
  18. Karma Mechanic

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    actually you have no idea what I know. What I do know is that every conspiracy theory that involves Oswald not being the lone assassin falls apart under scrutiny.
     
  19. Brother Jonathan

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    On November 22, 1963 the attending physicians who tried to save JFK's life state that Kennedy was shot in the right front of his head with a massive exit wound out the back of his head and his throat wound looked like an entrance wound, and Oswald was behind Kennedy, then how did Oswald's bullets kill him? Sounds to me like the lone gunman theory is crazier than the CIA conspiracy theories. Much crazier.
     
  20. normalguy23

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    It doesnt matter how his head snapped. He wasnt shot by a slug at point blank range. Have you ever shot something with a gun before? The object does not always move in the direction the bullet is going. Spatter does go in the direction of the gun shot. Hargis who was the officer behind and to the left said specifically "splash come out on the other side" He says nothing of seeing a splash coming out the back of his head. Clint Hill who was Jackie's bodyguard and was directly behind them also acknowledged that he was shot from the back. You cant prove that the autopsy photos are fake or altered. I have seen people who try to do this. They confuse the hanging pieces of the top of the skull as rear damage (because they are hanging over the rear) and dismiss the photo of the back of the head as fake.

    Tom Wilson cant explain how that bullet hole on the temporal lobe is part of the skull that was obviously blasted out (instead of in) and hanging above his ear. The autopsy is consistent with the damage. Your head naturally curves downward from the back. The rear entry fractured the skull on impact then blasted out the right and upper front portion when it impacted the front of the skull.

    This part isnt necessarily true but a possible reason that Kennedy's head moved the way it did would be because the right (looking from the rear) portion of his head released the energy when it separated, while the rest of the energy pushed against the left, intact portion of his head. Since the bullet exits on the upper front of the head and not directly the front, and that upper piece does not stay intact to carry the head forward it would make sense that his head carried back and to the left.

    There is nothing I have seen from any conspirator that is convincing that the head shot wound came from the front. I have not seen any proof of altered films/pictures. Comparing 2 films from different angles can result in different perspectives. Most people are taught that in elementary level art classes doing 2-point and 3-point perspective drawings.

    And for the Texas autopsy jurisdiction whatever. JFK was POTUS. Nobody knew exactly what had happened when he was shot or why. As far as anybody else knew it was an act of war.

    Clint Hill is quoted literally April 5th, 2012 as saying "Somebody had fired a shot at the President, and I had to get myself between the shooter and the President and Mrs. Kennedy"
    guess where Clint Hill was trying to get. Thats right he tried to shield behind them. If the shot had come from the front then I doubt he would have tried to shield a bullet by standing behind them.

    You need to provide some actual proof that any of this stuff is a fraud.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/here...e-jfk-assassination-2012-4?op=1#ixzz2l8Gu8iZL
     
  21. Brother Jonathan

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    If you are going to ignore what the attending physicians who tried to save Kennedy at Parkland Hospital state on November 22, 1963, then there is not much hope for you to ever learn the truth.
     
  22. normalguy23

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    His body wasnt examined at Parkland. They were trying to save him. those doctors are telling you what it looked like from where they were (along with witnesses). Its not like they were picking up the back of his head and examining it. They saw what looked like an entrance wound to the throat. Too bad they obstructed it for the autopsy while trying to save him. Even then this doesnt describe Connally's injuries. If someone has a head injury, no healthcare professional is going to be moving your head all around looking for bullet wounds, thats what autopsies are for.

    This guy does a pretty decent job at summing it up and it is literally only a week old written here in 2013.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...debunked_why_the_magic_bullet_and_grassy.html
     
  23. Brother Jonathan

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    There is no hope for you. You believe the official story and that is fine with me. You are not interested in learning the truth. The CIA murders people. That is what they do. They are assassins. They were all over Dallas that day. You are going to ignore Dr. Kemp Clark, chief of neurosurgery at Parkland Hospital, the doctor that tried to save Kennedy's life, over some writer at Slate. More power to you.

     
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    I think there is no hope for you. It wouldnt have taken a doctor to see someone missing half their head and realize they werent savable. I believe even Jackie was quoted for saying he was dead before he even arrived at the hospital. The doctor does not do your autopsy. A doctor could say that he was shot in the head. Thats about it. Read your quote real quick "in and out the back of the head." So according to that quote the bullet entered and exited through the back of the head. Sorry but you need to prove the autopsy wrong. If you can give me a video or picture that shows a bullet entering the front of his head then okay but you have yet to do so. You will always be living in a fantasy world. Im guessing addicted to LSD and PCP. Otherwise you would have actually provided proof of altered images/videos or something of actual value by now.
     
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    Oh so, now YOU know what the truth is. How did brain matter find its was to the driver section of the car...if Kennedy was shot from the front...What are the physics of that?

    In typical Nutter fashion, the statements of the any SS Agent are not to be believed because they are in on the conspiracy, right? Where is your proof that ANY SS Agent was part of the JFK assassination....other that your baseless assertions.
     

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