>>>MOD ALERT<<<Pinellas deputy fired for excessive force in traffic stop

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't get it, where was the excessive force people are whining about? She walked right into him, that creates a dangerous situation for the officer, this is total BS that simply degrades real cases of excessive force...
     
  2. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there lies your problem :wink: not looking deeper into the cause
     
  3. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you're watching a different video than everyone else.

    "It was clear to anybody watching it that there was no contact (and) that there was no push. There was no shove. There wasn't anything." --Pinellas County Sheriff Gualtieri

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    You mean I'm not making things up out of whole cloth. Yeah, I have a tendency to not do that. You don't seem to have the same qualms about it. Show me ANY source that says the woman was being cuffed because the officer thought the truck was stolen. You know you can't do it.
     
  4. rkhames

    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I corrected again. But answer me this. The article stated:

    So, whether she was turning towards the door, or the back of the vehicle, where was she qoing? The article states that she was arrested. Does that mean that she is free to go to you? Here's your license, have a nice day? She clearly snatched the license out of his hand, and was leaving. Something that almost anyone would understand is that if you are under arrest, you are not free to go. So, where was she going?
     
  5. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i think your getting over emotional over the video, and where looking into the facts that led up to this chaos, that she started it in the first place with the officer :blankstare:
     
  6. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *sigh*

    Read it again: "He arrested the driver for driving on a suspended license, then directed the woman to get out of the vehicle."

    The driver and the woman aren't the same person obviously. This should be obvious from the sentence you quoted. The driver was arrested THEN the woman, a completely different person, was directed to exit the vehicle.
     
  7. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    She "walked right into him"?

    The video is available for everyone to watch. Do you really think your description of what it depicts will dissuade any of us of what we can see with out own eyes?

    Try this:

    Do exactly what he did next time someone does to you exactly what she did, in front of cops, and find out what even they really consider justifiable use of force.
     
  8. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video and the Pinellas County Sheriff's office disagrees with you. You should accept that and move on. Your fake-Columbo theories are ridiculous.

    "It was clear to anybody watching it that there was no contact (and) that there was no push. There was no shove. There wasn't anything."
    --Pinellas County Sheriff Gualtieri
     
  9. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the internal investigation report...for those few that care about the truth:
    http://www.pcsoweb.com/Data/Sites/1/media/2016-11-22.pdf

    On March 25, 2016, while on duty in Pinellas County, Florida, you violated the Pinellas County
    Sheriffs Civil Service Act Laws of Florida, 89-404 as amended by Laws of Florida 08-285,
    Section 6, Subsection 4, by violating the provisions of law or the rules, regulations, and
    operating procedures of the Office of the Sheriff.

    1. You violated Pinellas County Sheriff s Office General Order 3 -1.1, Rule and Regulation
    5.15, Custody of Arrestees/Prisoners.

    On March 25, 2016, you conducted a lawful traffic stop at 10021 4th St. N., St.
    Petersburg, Florida 33702, wherein an occupant was arrested for felony driving on a
    suspended driver's license.

    In order to facilitate the impounding of this vehicle, you instructed the female occupant to
    exit the truck. Upon her exit, you handed her driver's license back to her. As she took the
    license and turned to walk away from you, apparently free to leave, you used unnecessary
    physical force
    to push her into a vehicle, used take down maneuvers to place her on the
    parking lot pavement, and pushed her head aggressively into the ground. The basis for
    the force used was the charge of Battery on a Law Enforcement Officer.
    During this event, Pinellas County Sheriffs Office digital video recording (COBAN)
    captured the subject being arrested and speaking with you. You called for a backup
    deputy, advising the Communications Division that you were "in a fight", while still
    using your body weight to hold the female on the ground. The arrestee calmly stated,
    "You're not in a fight officer", as she asked what you were doing and why she was under
    arrest.

    You alleged the arrestee exited the vehicle while "aggressively" approaching you. She
    then "ripped" her license from your hand, while using her right hand to "shove" you, in
    the chest area.
    The video collected from the occurred location business as evidence during this
    investigation, shows you falsely stated you were shoved and the evidence does not
    support the elements needed to establish the charge of Battery on a Law Enforcement
    Officer or your additional charge of Resisting an Officer with Violence. Furthermore, the
    video evidence does not show the arrestee approaching you aggressively, forcefully
    snatching or removing her driver license from your hand, or making contact with your
    chest at any time.

    You admitted that none of the video collected as evidence supports your testimony as to
    what occurred.


    The Administrative Review Board determined you committed this violation.
     
  10. notme

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    She got arrested over attacking the officer. Something she never did.

    She should have been, yeah.

    Indeed.

    Since they impounded the truck her boyfriend was driving with a suspended drivers license, a thing he got arrested over does mean she was free to go home.
     
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    She didn't start a thing. The chaos was created by the cop, making up that she was fighting him so she could make a bogus arrest. He got rightfully fired over that. I fail to see a problem in this at all. I think you're getting emotional over the fact a white violent thug with a badge got fired for failing to protect and serve.
     
  12. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you need to watch it again. In the video in the OP's link there are pauses/jumps/cuts, there is clear and obvious editing. When you watch a different version of the video without any editing you can clearly see she makes contact with the officer, which is illegal and gives the officer full authority to arrest her. Its pathetic, as this police officer is being railroaded by racists (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s because they think its open season on white cops.
     
  13. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. She did not.

    [video=youtube;pGQCMJ6rADI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGQCMJ6rADI[/video]
     
  14. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Close enough for government work. Maybe if her people weren't targeting cops across the country for assassination, cops wouldn't feel the need to subdue people so quickly. This isn't happening in a vacuum...
     
  15. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not interested in your racial diversion.

    And apparently it wasn't even close enough for government work since the government fired his ass for it.
     
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  17. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    If it is not reported or the lie is not uncovered how would there be statistics for it?

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    Here is another one who saw one thing, but claims it was something else.

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    :roflol: Now the video is edited. Jesus Christ.
     
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    Then why are you here?

    What do you think the purpose of this thread is if the officer was punished?
     
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    So your argument is in what may or may not even exist? Even if we doubled the current amount of wrongful uses of force, it will still be so ridiculously low. Face it, your so emotionally attached to this anti authority attitude you have you cant possibly think logically about it.
     
  20. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't understand why I'm here if not for racial diversions? lmao

    Is that why you're here?
    It's just another example from a long list of police abuse. We have cameras now so you'll have to get used to it until things change. No more sweeping this type of stuff under the rug and throwing innocent people in prison.
     
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    I love that BCM is taking off! Actually (*)(*)(*)(*)in doing something about police brutality instead of peddling a bunch of race baiting bull(*)(*)(*)(*), rioting and burning down their neighbors businesses to protest the police for some reason.
     
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    Right, so what exactly are you discussing if the cop was fired and charges against the woman were dropped?

    Why would I care if there are cameras?

    Can you point out where I defended this cop?
     
  23. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    See that's just it, as a black man I know it exist because I have dealt with it before.

    Really, how low would it be?

    It has nothing to do with anti-authority, its injustice that I am attached to.

    See folks were shocked to see Rodney King on TV, because you don't think that happens.

    Black folks were shocked to see it on TV, because we know it happens we just couldn't believe someone actually videoed it.
     
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    You think so too? Why is it conservatives act racist?
     
  25. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're discussing this incident of police abuse, obviously....and most of my time in this thread has been spent exposing the lies that people have been fabricating.

    So, since you asked...what are you doing here?
     

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