>>MOD WARNING<<Germany threatens retaliation if U.S. sanctions harm its firms

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  1. Tijuana

    Tijuana Well-Known Member

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    What a ridiculously ignorant statement. Just because we like to bring allies, doesn't mean we can't win on our own. Most nations don't even have a navy at all, and none have one like ours. If Germany wanted to attack the US, they would need us to drive their army across the ocean for them.
     
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    [QUOTE = «JakeJ, должность: 1067672151, член: 68447»] Да, все европейские страны должны выйти из ЕС, так как он пришел существовать для Германии, чтобы быть хищником против остальной Европы.

    И люди говорят, что американские избиратели доверчивы и обмануты политиками. Вы еще один немецкие на форуме, пояснив, что в то время как Меркель принесли огромное число самых сексистских, невежественных, ксенофобских, необразованных и анти-светских фанатиков в мире - все на немцах счета - но - как переизбрание подходы Merkel кампании против нее собственная политика и истории - вы уверены, что ее объяснение [/ QUOTE] «считает, что я говорю как политик и игнорировать то, что я на самом деле сделал с моим годом мощности за годом.»
    Bravo!
     
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  3. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    All my statements are true. So read carefully. This is not a thief Navalny. Therefore, you will not be deceived.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    You're right.
     
  5. Ninian

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    Well, then explain to me claim about Putin ending a "civil war".

    Also, advice number 2: learn English and stop relying on Internet-translators, they do sloppy job.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    When there are no arguments you always post a photo? :roflol:....By the way, why are not you the picture of the thief Navalny?
     
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    Challenge accepted.
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    Challenge is done.
     
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    1. Maybe you live on the moon, I do not know, but I'll try to explain - the war in Chechnya is a civil war in one of the regions of Russia.
    2. Your advice does not interest me.
     
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    You so write because you do not have enough education? Or because you do not have arguments?
     
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    First of all, his English is as much understandable as yours.
    Secondly, I think the translator is doing a great job...
    Too bad for litwin though because obviously Lithuanian is weakly supported on yandex. Some kurdish pkk sympathizer immigrants who live in Germany need to learn English. They truly suck at discussions...
     
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    If you remember, I always said that the German soldiers are the best soldiers (of course after the Russians). But that was before. Now the German army is a mockery.
    For example.
    As stated in the annual report of the Chief Inspector of the German Armed Forces in the Bundestag, Helmut Keninghaus. "The shortage and shortage of equipment and equipment and the problems of maintaining it in order have become unacceptable."
    It was back in 2014. Now everything is even worse.
    It is not difficult to understand Herr Koeninghouse. It has come to the point that because of the lack of Infantry fighting vehicle, German servicemen have to train with ... Mercedes Vito minivans.
    There are numerous cases of using Nissan Pathfinder and other jeeps to replace armored ambulances and Dingo armored cars.
    The German military had to withdraw from participating in NATO exercises. Special divisions of the KSK Bundeswehr should have 9 transport helicopters ready to take off at any moment, but before the exercises it turned out that 8 of them were out of order.
    The situation is no better, and, in the formidable some decades ago, the Luftwaffe. German pilots in connection with the technical condition of aircraft managed to fly last year only two-thirds of the mandatory number of flying hours. If the matter progresses at such rates and further, in the very near future the NATO command will be compelled to remove them from flights for the lack of flight practice.

    The German Defense Ministry was greatly embarrassed, when for one and a half hundred soldiers and officers who were waiting of Mazar-e-Sharif to return home, they had to send a plane from Chancellor Angela Merkel's fleet. On the military transport plane Airbus 310, on which the military had to return, the oxygen masks turned out to be faulty.
    The problems with the material and technical supply of the Bundeswehr became particularly noticeable in the second half of last year, when the supply of arms to the Kurds that were battling with ISIS. Two of the three military transport aircraft of the Transall, which were in service with the Bundeswehr, were supposed to deliver a large batch of weapons to Erbil, but both broke down. Bundeswehr had to rent a military transport plane from Holland. By the way, there were also problems with him.
    In the report of Helmut Koeninghouse - In 38% of the barracks the check revealed serious shortcomings, and 269 out of 3 thousand buildings are generally unfit for people due to the presence of fungus and mold.
    In the autumn, a special commission of experts prepared a report on the state of the German Armed Forces for the deputies of the Bundestag, which brought legislators to a state close to shock. Of course, they all knew about the problems, but before getting acquainted with the numbers, they did not know how deep they were. Suffice it to say that only 42 of the 109 "Typhoon" fighters, 38 of the 89 "tornado" bombers, can take to the air. Of the 406 "martin" tanks, only 280 can leave the boxes.
    Helicopters NH90. As of the end of September 2014, only 2 out of 33 machines could have been launched into the air. Now I do not know, but judging by the information received, the situation did not improve.

    Another anecdotal situation, giving a clear picture of the German armed forces.
    One of the German missile units within NATO is deployed in Turkey. In order to support missiles in Turkey in a state of combat readiness, the missile forces are forced to remove the necessary parts and components from missiles located in Germany.

    And this is data about 2015 - 2016. But the budget of the Defense Ministry 1,21%. Although it is necessary according to NATO plans - 2%
     
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    I thought your claim about Russia the superpower is a joke and so i laughed. If you are serious about that i am willing to proof you wrong.

    Russia has the nuclear capability of a superpower, thats true but the conventional army is a strong one without the ability of global power projection. A superpower relies not only on military strength, soft power is also needed. Russia lacks the economic strength, the scientific strength and the cultural strength.
     
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    That is true and undisputed. In 1990 our neighbours were uncomfortable with our military strength and we had and have more important things to do with our money.
    We are cool enough to endure laughter about our army, that's better than people crying while facing our weapons. Nevertheless we should bring our army in a better shape.
     
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    Russia is not a true superpower because it lacks the global network of states allied to it and is not focused on a truly global agenda to establish hegemony. Indeed, in a sense, Russia is not even entirely focused on countering US hegemony in a lot of places except a few areas where the Russians are more or less directly involved. But certainly Russia is a major power with the means, if it so decides, to stand up to and not only complicate but in many cases defeat US hegemonic ambitions. The only thing is that the Russians, at least until the past 2-3 years, seem to have been uninterested in playing that role with any requisite resolve or willingness to pay the price that it would entail. More recently, they were somewhat pushed to play this role, but it is still not clear whether they are simply looking for a better bargain in some areas which they have stood up to the US or are actually interested in making sure we don't have a uni-polar world?

    In the meantime, for those Americans who like to ridicule various powers and would be powers, and beat their chests about America's superpower status, I will say this: much of America's influence that can be described as being "good" belongs to the past when the good and the bad both worked together in American foreign policy and when the US needed to accentuate and focus on the good parts of its ideology and message to help defeat the Soviet menace. Today, responsibility for much that is wrong and bad in this world lays with the US and very little that is good is being promoted by it.

     
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    Yes it is the point. Read post 106 "Since the EU is under our command"
     
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    They can, since Germany just has 29 votes. Besides that, German political parties are split in the EU and work with other EU nations they aligned themselves with.... as in the PDSare in the "GUE/NGL" with (among parties) the French communists and that is without the CDU.
     
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    Damnnn... That's what I call a contribution. Thanks...

    To have a look on the more political side of things, I'd point to Merkel's representation of German leadership of "globalist Europe". This year's NATO summit made clear the "suspected" gap between the US and EU has widened, if Monsieur Macron's participation didn't make things worse. Why? Because unlike many would think Macron's presidency actually marked the start of a reparation period for EU's damaged(!) values.

    Macron - Merkel cooperation wants those good ole reluctance and unwillingness take over whenever Brussels gets pressured by the US for their participation to NATO ops. Even the globalist deep state USA hates coming up with creative solutions everytime these status quo loving stupid Europeans drag feet about contributing to new "mandatory" adjustments, as if they are not the ones who'd get fcked by the first Russian impact. Romanov was not just a random guy, you know? :)

    Although it is cheap and effective, truck attacks like the ones in Nice and Berlin, are still risky for their easy-to-copy methods which can be used by rival blocs to create confusions and deeper cracks on the walls of the alliance. France sent its only carrier to the region immediately after Bataclan, what did the truck in Nice do?
     
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    :flagus: should stop paying the bills of the Euros & :flagcanada:
    :rant:

    How nice they can have all those "social benefits" because they need not worry about their national security. They have their Uncle Sam.
    It is time for :flagus: to force them to stand up as real nations and pay their own way.
    Let's make :flagus: Great Again by investing :flagus: tax funds in :flagus:
    If they want Uncle Sam to cover their security, they should pay for it. All of it. No aid.

    And skrew Deutchland too. Ingrates alles!



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


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    Make :flagcanada: Pay Its' Fair Share!
     
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    I think the real joke is you Brehme... Because whatever you counted as Russia lacks having, is just the other way around...
    1)Russia has one of the dominant conventional militaries. Sorry...
    2)Russia can implement seriously legendary soft power strategies, some of which are better than the west.
    3)What's Russia has been truly lacking is the "NAVAL" strength but even that doesn't mean their navy is not way ahead of numerous European countries. But yes compare to the US Russian navy is behind. However, this not a criteria for a country like Russia not being considered as a superpower. Why? Because of the geopolitical laws.

    Russia does not have to have the best navy in the world because it has been controlling the HEARTLAND for centuries long. So it does not need to project power to overseas. What is the Heartland? Why there's a crescent set around it by the west? What's SPYKMAN's RIMLAND? Forget all, let me ask you this; What is "the World Island" ?

    Only plain ignorants do laugh at the fact that Russia's the only "natural" superpower of the world..!
     
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    Germany is no demicracy anymore. We basicly have no functional oppossition left. Merkel rules like a queen. She does what she wants when it holds her in power, even doing decissions against her own party.

    And regarding EU, nothing can be done against German will. Votes and paper are irrelevant when you hold the money. There is a reason why Merkel nicknamed Madame No.

    Look, the polish president complains, that Berlin decides evrything. The greek finance minister says that basicly only the german finance minister decides and others are scared. The former italian PM Renzi said, that only Berlin decides and all others are forced into agreement. And then there is you. Lol
     
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    But your army would also have to go across the ocean. Those military bases that are in Germany and other EU countries obviously can be destroyed in a few minutes.
     
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    Look at Syria...Russia all has enough. Do not worry.... Do you remember what Bismarck said? " Russia is never so weak as it seems to you. ".

    The chairman of the NATO military committee, General Peter Paul, in an interview for the publication Politico -
    "Speaking about the potential, there is no doubt that Russia is developing its capabilities in both traditional and nuclear components. Speaking about the exercises, their ability to deploy troops over long distances and effectively use them far from their territory is not subject to doubt "
    At the same time, the IMF improves forecasts for economic growth in Russia....The only thing that worries the Russians is the lifting of sanctions.The Russians do not want the lifting of sanctions. I'm talking seriously. For example, some regions of Russia send petitions to the Kremlin with a request to do everything to ensure that sanctions are not abolished.

    For example. Putin promised to "pull as long as possible" with the abolition of counter-sanctions. http://www.rbc.ru/politics/22/11/2016/583445a49a7947a6542e5ff6
    Briefly - the inhabitants of Russia ask Putin to do everything in order to prolong the sanctions of the West against Russia. Putin promises to do this.

    Once again - sanctions against Russia are a blessing for Russia.
     
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    Too late. Soon in the EU, not only in Germany, there will be a collapse.
     
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    I want to say that the EU and the US supported terrorists who committed terrorist acts in Russia, Turkey ... But now terrorists are committing terrorist acts in the EU and the US. In other words, dogs bite the owner's hand.
     
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    I don't know facts? Lol ... then disproof me and the things please! And these 50,000 new jobs are BS only ... a temporary job until Trump will be dismissed, because they produce coal that no one buys!
    But maybe Trump will do an evil socialistic measure by making the US coal much cheaper with subvention from US tax money?
     

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