>>MOD WARNING>Milwaukee violence: Protests break out after officer fatally shoots man

You're looking for proof? Here's proof. There's not one majority black society in the world that's economically successful and has a low crime rate. Not one. Zero in Africa. Zero in the Caribbean. Zero in black neighborhoods in otherwise civilized countries. Zero. At best there are a few that are lower middle class. Otherwise they are dirt poor seas of ignorance with an astronomical crime rate.

 

I'm still waiting for the explanation on that as well

 

It's in the news, Google is your friend.

 

I have no clue what you are talking about. Everyone should have a chance at a great education. Who in his right mind would want a bad one? If a voucher can put a kid in a better school academically, I am all for it. Look at the charter schools in New York. They are done by lottery and the kids who attend are beating those who are in traditionally bad public schools. Why would de Blasio be against them? Could it be that the uneducated vote Democrat?

 

Oh sorry, common ground just refers to a concept we can both use as a starting point. So if we agree to that as a starting point then that's good.

The reason I cited it is because those take time to undo, there's no question about it that it's changed but not fast enough. Besides the spirit is still there, look at gentrification. Raise the property values without adjusting income and the original tenants can't afford to live there anymore. It's how historically black neighborhoods are getting priced out by the incoming white tenants.

You don't use public transportation or a bike to get around do you? What ends up happening is that money is thrown at repairing roads, not sidewalks. Potholes on the road are fixed, but not the sidewalks. It also means crosswalks are not maintained. And because the roads are designed with cars in mind, there is no to little space for bikes. As for buses, our public transportation system is very bad compared to other countries. This makes them unreliable. While car pools are nice for work, for everyday necessities they're not as good.

Oh of course not, but as the people who design our cities work for the government, this is there fault.

Sure, I buy that argument.

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Well, let's start at the beginning.
Do you know what the term equal means?

 

So it's justified to loot,burn and beat IYO?

 

And why do the gangs exists or the most part? No fathers or family unit to keep the kids in line so they find that family in a gang. Nearly every issue in the black community can be traced to people screwing anything that moves without any thought as to what sex leads to. And we all suffer for it.


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Define justice.

 

I have seen saying lately that we are on the verge of an all out race war and this hardens my opinion. Obama has made a bad situation worse.

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Running from my question I see

 

That's a narrow definition of family, but not inaccurate. Yes, overpolicing has an effect on the communities, and it leads to single parent families, which in turn effects children.

 

Well hear we go again, not even waiting for facts and they are just gonna go ahead and start the violence.

Just more proof this is nothing more than an excuse to destroy stuff and steal.

 

Running? How is establishing a common definition running? If we don't have the same definition then we're going to be arguing what justice is instead of what you're really looking for.

 

The only thing that leads to single parent families are people who don't care to take care of their responsibilities. They just wanna have sex and ignore the consequences. But yet you want to blame police for a guys decision to not care for his child?

 

That's simply not true. How did you come to this conclusion?

No. I'm blaming the village.

 

It was a simple question that asked if the riots were justified in your opinion. Your opinion is what you are running from

 

Well the fact that the morons who have sex don't take care of their responsibilities afterwards. How can you blame anyone else but the parents for not being responsible? Nobody else forced them to have sex.

So none of it is the individuals fault, their next door neighbor is also the problem?

 

Since when is a simple question ever simple? I don't usually give my opinion because I operate on a very different wavelength from most people, hence why I ask for common ground. If you want my opinion then it basically boils down to justice is an extension of the will of the people and rioting is a stepping stone on the path to overthrowing the government, a step taken when all of the other options procceding it have failed.

 

Not really. His posts are barely literate. I knew what he said didn't make sense, but addressed his claim from another angle as to why an 'educated' person would use logical fallacies.

 

But it moves kids out of a poisonous environment to one that might enable them to find a path out of the cesspool.

 

Have you ever had sex before? Those hormones are pretty strong to ignore. Or heard of rape? Or how about socio-economic conditions that give rise to stable households?

And the next neighbor, and the block, and the mailman Fred, and everyone in the village and the power struggles within the village, and of course outside influences.

 

It also strips local communities with talent and social connections needed to get ahead. And still takes money out of schools.

 

Your posts are incoherent, and you lack any basic understanding of the topics discussed.

 

Well duh, but unlike a certain type of person I understand the consequences of my actions. I mean I understand progressives want to ignore personal responsibility and blame everything wrong with their lives on someone else, but the fact is there is a consequence for every action and when you choose to have sex you know the responsibilities with that. Nobody forced you or me to get busy with someone, and nobody made the stupid decision for some people to create a child and then run away from their responsibilities.

BUt in the end leave it to a progressive to try and blame everyone that was not involved in 2 dumbasses having a baby and doing absolutely nothing about it.

Right, because the mail man made them do it. How stupid.

 

Wait, if you're saying that there are consequences to actions, why not have those consequences be externalities? Why not go ahead and say that there are problems that are caused by others? Who's to say that society hasn't created the conditions for it? Sure, sex is based on the actors but society can push them just as hard as any hormones. This is why we see poorer countries have higher birth rates. It's not that they're bad parents who abandon their children, it's just that conditions are ripe for higher birth rates.

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You know if we include the village it still blames everyone in the village, like the parents.

Why doesn't the post office provide basic banking services like check cashing?

 

Because those consequences are the sole responsibility of the people committing the act. The people in apartment 3B did not make the people in 4C have sex. You can't blame someone for another persons life choices. It's not my fault or problem if the person next door to me goes and knocks up 3 different women, he alone made that choice for himself so therefor it is his fault along with the girl he slept with.

And if some country is a baby making facility then that is their problem.

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Yes I understand, you want other people to pay for the mistakes of others. You want to have a baby and make our tax dollars fund it, I get it.

Check cashing has contributed to idiots leaving their children fatherless?