Moldova PM calls on Russia to withdraw it troops from Transnistria.

There were no German delegates just some AFD members of a regional parliament on a private journey.

 

If I say that this message is not from you, but from an account 'Blucher' registered on one of the web-sites - I will be technically (and legally) right. But it won't change the fact that this was your message. The life continues and Crimea lives fine without Ukrainian government. They could have lived in better if western governments haven't imposed sanctions on crimeans. The only war and limitations of human rights happening in Crimea are created by western countries and Ukraine.

 

If I'm a delegate I must be delegated by someone. They weren't sent from their regional parliament and not from our national parliament or government. They were just tourists.

 

Yes. But they were deputies and political party members. They still are. It's not the official delegation of Germany or EU. True. But still they are part of german state and not just regular tourists. The way to end the discrimination of the choice made crimeans by western Europe will end in future. Whoever makes this political move is an internal issue for European countries. So far the West prefers to punish crimeans for not dying in the war like in Donbass.

 

Jeannette used the word delegates to imply an official German position and that's just not true. That was all my post was about.

 

Yes it's this purpose of Russia to reform the boundaries of the old USSR that are causing the new arms race, Ukraine of course right in the middle between Transnistria and Donbass... no wonder they're vandalising Russian cultural buildings, they understand Russian intent very well. The cost I'm referring to is economical... the cost of sanctions... the cost of fighting ongoing wars with those who resist.

 

Sure, your politicians try also to manipulate German people. But looks like it becomes more and more problematic (see posts of Sobo, for example). You are wrong, when Yanukovich was in power there was no force from Russian side - all manipulation was done economically.

 

I don't understand your post.

The arms race happens because of the conflicting interests of real world powers. For this conflict doesn't really matter if Ukraine exists or not. Such countries as of Eastern Europe or former soviet republics, or Cuba, or the Philipines are just a mean for creating problems for these powers. The conflicts in Georgia\Abkhazia, Armenia\Azerbaijan, Moldova\Transnistria, Ukraine\Donbass, Korea North\South, Syria\ISIS, Iraq\ISIS happen for the sake of NATO having another excuse for a military base threatening rivals as Russia, China or Iran. If a hundred or a million of people dies in a conflict justifying this base - doesn't really matter. A new base and armament give a room for bargaining from a position of strength - 'you need to do this or we are ready to strike'. This approach doesn't work lately, but American elite doesn't see any other approach for negotiations.

Sanctions are another routine undermining capabilities of powers to create a real ability of the states to defend themselves against a possible attack of the US is not aiming at any human rights or values of democracy. It's a blackmail and rough persuasion to kneel and give up. It works with most of the world so far, but fails to work for a decade about Russia, for half a century with Iran and lately with China and finally North Korea. This is the only reason why these countries who don't have any plans or real capabilities to attack the USA are called the main threat for the USA. The threat is not in attacking. The threat is caused by ability of these countries to pursue their national interests and not the interests of the US.

Now let's return Transnistria. Firstly these people live under sanctions since the collapse of the USSR. Secondly Russian peacekeepers are not based on the border with Ukraine. They are based on the conflict border, which is Transnistria and Moldova. Russia could bomb Moldova like NATO did with Serbia and form a bigger Transnistria following Kosovo pattern. But nothing like it ever happened. Russian aim in the region is peace and lives of those who associate themselves with Russia.
Next you tell that it is only fine if Romania annexes Moldova, but if Russia wants to rejoin with Transnistria - it will be an aggression. Why? There need to be one standard not double. Let's say that Moldovan sovereignty and territorial integrity is a value. OK. Then after the peace has established (which is a fact for more than a decade) Moldovan politicians need to start negotiations with Transnistria, form a constitution, make an election and live independently. That's a good choice and if Russia was against of it I would disagree with my government.
If the Moldovan integrity is not important and the will of Moldovan citizens to reunite with this or that country is important than negotiations about peaceful coexistence need to start between the states participating in the deal, a referendum must be held in every region of Moldova and the will of the people needs to be executed. If Russia wanted to oppose this scenario - I would also disagree with my government.
But how can I possibly agree for slaughtering of people of the same nationality as mine in order to annex the territory and to make a position for my existence? Once the westerners traded with Indians they offered some pieces of glass and spirit in exchange for their land and lives. And today they want to even cut these tiny costs. That's not a good business!

 

Yes she was a little bit incorrect.

 

Sobo is sore he doesn't get paid the same as west germans....if he did Merkel would be "god who walks on water". And not long ago(what??3 weeks) merkel was a saint? He had some sort of epiphany since then? Germany in Nato and EU...they run EU vis...im sure this bothers you, but shouldn't since you work in Germany and take Merkel money...dont be a hypocrite!!
Yanuk was putinkas dog...as was Party of regions...all sovoks afaic. Economic, political pressure was done by putler. Education minister tabachnyk...sovok turd, tried to shut down all ukranians speaking schools, colleges, azarov sovok a Russian citizen, etc., afaic.

 

No, you are wrong, Sobo does not want that Germany was in NATO, and that has nothing to do with the payment of salaries to west and east Germans. That is related more to US intervention in Germany. While Russian army has left Germany long time ago, US army still occupies it.
I work in Germany in a private company, and not in the government organization so Merkel does not pay me anything- no hypocricy here. By the way, the CEO of our company also strongly beleive that it is too much presence of the US in Germany in various forms and that they make too much trouble for making business with Russia. Pornoshenko is in no way better that Yanukovich.

 

You are right.

 

The "new" arms race I was referring to is the cumulation of events since Russia started building up forces along their western border, the invasion of Crimea, Donbass, other events like Montenegro... even Syria and involvement in North Korea. These chain of events caused an increase in NATO forces in Eastern Europe, NATO missile defence in Norway, Sweden implementing compulsory military service and so on. Also the more recent American National Security plan to develop low yield nuclear weapons a direct response to Russia's violation of Ballistic missile treaty (or to be more correct INF Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty).

regarding your comments on the conflict doesn't really matter if Ukraine exist or not, I understand you are saying the conflict is bigger than Ukraine and this is true... however I do believe this is a big difference between Russia and the west, because of the manner our democracies function, small countries do matter to us, we take pride in the freedom smaller countries have to... well... to be.. or exist or at least have some influence in their existence. Perhaps Russia needs to consider that these small countries it disregards, is a larger part of the conflict with the west than they would like to acknowledge.

Yes Sanctions have failed to work for Iran, Russia and North Korea however I believe it's only due to them using more creative methods of fundraising (lol fundraising - terrible choice of word but I'll use it anyway ), including all of the tools available via organised crime. Sanctions is a powerful tool and any country who do not use the powers they have at their disposal, I would consider foolish even though it has created this incredibly messy overlap of terror, crime, drugs, human trafficking, money laundering, oil, weapons (including nuclear) and politics.

Well yes it's true.. Russia can't turn sideways without being considered a threat... but that's the way you like it... (and don't even try to deny it). So now you have the whole worlds attention...it is after all what you wanted.

I like your new jet btw

New Russian stealth fighter spotted in Syria
Two Su-57 jets are the latest high-tech military system Russia has deployed in Syria conflict
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/22/new-russian-stealth-fighter-spotted-in-syria

 

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The North Koreans consider it a dream job, (at least compared to China), and even pay their government to work for Russia. So guess again.

 

The Ukrainians are mad because Russia will stop transporting gas through its territory, and they won't be able to blackmail the EU and Russia by shutting off the spigot at will.

The way I see it, Ukraine consists of three groups:

1- The Nazis who are driven by hatred for the Russians as they were driven by hatred towards the Poles before they massacred them and took their land. Now they want to expand by taking the Russians lands as well. In their eyes, some Slavs are untermenchen, and some are supermenchen. They are the supermenchen, so it's their right.

2- The mafia families who own and control everything in Ukraine. Most of the loans from the IMF go into their pocket, but that's okay. When the peasants find it's impossible to pay off the loans, the mafias will buy everything up cheaply, and then sell them to multi national corporations and make a killing.

3- The people who are suffering.

 

When the Soviet Union collapsed, 20 million Russians were left outside of the Russian Federation. If there is anything Moscow doesn't need is land. They have plenty of it. And if there is anything Moscow does need its people. It's not easy though for the Russians living on lands their ancestors lived on for centuries in places like the Baltics and Eastern and Southern Ukraine to get up and move.

Vladimir Putin started a homestead act like the US had, and is giving away free land in Siberia. Other than Russian citizens, he is offering the land to all people of Russian heritage in the world, as well as Slavs who want to retain their heritage and religious faith in a world where it's being threatened.

 

Yes, I'm wrong since it doesn't "agree" with your "view". Sobo don't want Germany in Nato, sure, but Germany is in Nato, and he is bur several.
West germany paying for EGs upgrading from decades of Marxist/Leninist garbage veesko, just like the rest of WP, you dont seem to realize that.

You work in private sector? OK sure....what you get paid in? Euros? Yes/no? No BS.

Poroshenko no better than yanukovich?

If yanukovich was so good he wouldnt have been run outta town.

 

"New" russian fighters in Syria.....s*** must've hit the proverbial fan after Putinkas "Wagner" mercs got waxed by the hundreds...quite effortlessly. So now he's bringing in some more firepower. Like it'll help, just more targets to shoot at for the rebels. Just more and more resources being committed by the russkis....do I hear astan part Deux?).

 

Do not worry, sooner or later Germany will quit NATO. Why to pay 2% of the national income to war monsters from Washington, when it is better to spend it on own needs. Of course, I get payed in euros. So what? It is local currency. If I worked in Sweden, I would get Swedesh crowns. Yanukovich would not run away from Kiev, if Nazis that came into power at that time did not threat him.I think you and me would run away as well in this case. His mistake was that he was too soft. He should have use the military force to stop that bullshit in Kiev. Probably he would have to kill hundred of people, but then he would save thousands of lives in Donbass.

 

Well they think it's a publicity stunt... Russia is not saying much

 

That's your wishful thinking vis, that Germany leave Nato, it bothers moskalis , like fleas on a dog, especially that kremlinoid Putinka), don't hold your breath, you'll turn blue. Those countries in former WP aren't under any illusions about moskalis motives, why do you think they joined Nato? Especially Baltics.

Yes you get paid euros!! Merkel money, as I said, thanks for clarifying. ).

Yes Washington DC, all monsters, like Freddy Krueger of movie Friday the 13th....you see it?

Yanukovich was a tool vis, did you see his mansion? Toilet bowl of gold with armrests, and average ukranian rummaging in dumpsters for food, yanuk didn't care! Did he pay for that mansion with his presidents salary?
Use military force to stop the BS? Yes that would've went over well, hundreds maybe thousands dead, even more resentment. Epic.

 

That is completely incorrect. The buildup of Russian forces are not concentrated alongside its western border. Russia started with the south answering terrorist attacks. As for the buildup in the west it happens as an answer for NATO extension. It is NATO which is approaching Russian borders not otherwise.

I don't say that small countries are unimportant. Ukraine is not that small! It used to be about 40 mln people in the territory comparable to France or Germany! The thing is that it doesn't play any significant role in the conflict on their territory. At the moment Assad plays a much more important role in the territory of Syria, though the war is much bigger there.

Sanctions is the start of the hot war... since... since the start of the world trade. It is not determined by policy. It determines the policy.

I don't like when people suspect me of every crime just because I don't agree with them. There is something barbarian about this attitude IMHO.
As for the new jet it is a demonstration to the US. Syria became a pre-war for the possible bigger conflict. Sometimes it helps the aggressor to change the plans. For instance there used to be a clash between the USSR and Japan in 1938-1939. The amount of losses is more than the same amount for Hitler's campaign in Poland. But it helped to change the complete strategy of Japan which decided to attack the US and GB instead of the USSR. The conflict in Korea IMHO averted the nuclear attack of the USA at soviet cities soon after the WW2. Syria is the last resort. Negotiations failed. And at the moment it is only about a possible change of plans. So far the plans of the US are so solid and long-planned, they look so unchangeable that even Trump has the same external policy as Obama or the Clintons.

 

ok well thank you for making me look this up because turns out the whole saga is completely worth the effort.

ok so I knew about the Build up of forces near Russia's western borders but was not aware of the other events that led to it.

The west wanted Russia to withdraw it's forces from Moldova (Transnistria) and Georgia, Russia called them peacekeepers, then Nato members wouldn't sign an amended CFE treaty until Russia withdraw. Putin then started building up his military on the western border to spite NATO, Bush then decided a missile defence shield in eastern Europe is a good idea.

Fast forward to today and Syria is starting to look like Putin taking the Russian military for a test run... the Balkans next stop.

Nato and Russia playing dangerous game with military build-up
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/27/military-build-up-along-russias-border-no-cause-for-alarm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-12-07/russia-could-boost-forces-after-cfe-freeze-mp/980180

^^ not exactly what I said... I don't suspect Russia of every crime because I don't agree with them, I suspect Russia of every crime because so far they've had a finger in almost every pie.

Trump has no plans... he just tweets, watches tv and eats burgers. The Pentagon's plans to me however...look very different to Obama's, much more assertive.

 

These events are really worth of anyone's look.

And again I would ask You to revise the data... The thing is that status of peaceekeepers of Russian troops in Georgia and Moldavia was received since the times of armed conflicts in these countries, which get back to the times of the USSR collapse. The peacekeepers remained there for a decade without any troubles.
The plans for NATO buildup started later. And until the last time these plans were connected not with Russia but with possible defense of EU from Iranian nuclear rockets. It was an official claim of NATO representatives. Recently they changed their propaganda. Russian reaction for stopping the treaty of tactical nuclear missiles in Europe started after the steps towards NATO buildup. Not otherwise. We need to be able to destroy all the NATO rocket launching bases which threaten Russia.

The first aim of Russia in Syria is ISIS. It threatens Russian territory and Russian citizens. For years the US was officially trying to fight away these guys at negative results. With our involvance ISIS became history as a state.

As for Balkans we don't have any aggressive plans or even a sane possibility to take part in the fate of the region. So far there is no even a serious task for it. Serbia has some ties with Russia. But we are not going to make another world war just for some of Serbian citizens to feel nice for some days or weeks. It makes no sense.

Iraq? Libya? Kosovo? Recent Afghanistan? I think that you are not very sincere. You suspect Russia of every crime without any serious data and only feel bad that you don't have it.

Trump had a lot of plans. He wanted to save a lot of money on military conflicts around the world. But with the pressing, which started right after his victory he failed to stay up to his own promises and continued the policy of his predecessors, which was one of his biggest criticism during the election campaign.
Pentagon cannot have plans for world policy. Pentagon is a tool. They have plans for possible orders from politicians, but they don't define the worldl policy. The decisions were made in between the politicians and American oligarchs. They grow on this war. It's their interest that it continues.

 

No... I had to look this up but essentially Russia were angered by Moldova and Georgia moving closer to the EU, the empire crumbling. It started with a wine blockade for all imports of wine from these two countries and escalated from there, especially when Russia covertly stirred unrest then launched an invasion..calling it peacekeeping (lol peacekeeping...this part is rather funny I'll grant you that)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/world/europe/06russia.html

Yes ISIS is first aim but doesn't mean it's the only aim, Russia's military was being revamped and needed experience... enter Syria.

The Balkans is a whole new issue, the article was written before the Russian exercises in the Balkans but I doubt anyone is naive enough to think the threat is over.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...ary-buildup-on-europes-border-raises-tension/

they advise and inform and therefore influence... He's fairly isolated and between Pompeo, Mattis and Netanyahu being manoeuvred where they want him.