Mom puts recorder in child’s backpack to catch bullying, now faces felony charge

disagree

 

How do you disagree? Are you suggesting that if a child is accused of any kind of bullying, they should have their identity published?

 

I think they should be reported to the appropriate anchorites in the school and if it's a crime.... reported to police

her only mistake was buying the recording device for her daughter and not teaching her to use it... then it would of been legal - doesn't seem like a crime worthy of a felony where they take your right to own a gun away

 

In civilized states you are only restricted from recording conversation on a phone other wise you are good to go.

 

I like the idea of feed because it is expected and known. I don't like the idea of people recording children without THEIR parents giving permission. Those other children's parents have a right to know when their kids are being taped at school, and who controls that tape. You are compromising the rights of every single child/ gardian who was in contact with one to at least know its happening and have some control over its use. Not everyone will treat these tapes with integrity, especially when those kids get into middle and high school.

 

proof please in the form of a link.

 

in a public place you should assume your always being recorded, take your kids to Walmart, they are being videotaped, but schools can't do the same?

should we arrest children that use their phones to record others?

I do not think recording a crime should ever be a crime

 

You turn around and file suit against the school board for a 1st amendment violation

 

Where do we draw the line? Should students be taking video in the locker room or restroom?

 

I've seen this all I don't see how it merits a felony prosecution given what is now known.
And I have a hard time imagining something that would trigger felony prosecution as well.

 

No, You should assume that your state and federal privacy laws are being obeyed. I also assume that Walmart has a legal team that knows the laws in the states in which they do business. In my state, the school is obliged to get a permission slip signed at the beginning of the school year informing parents that the DISTRICT may video or audio record students. I am not nearly as uncomfortable with a school district I can hold accountable, for what they do with that recording, than any anonymous source. I completely disagree with this concept that anyone gets to tape record a minor with no consent from any party, and use the contents as they see fit.

There is thus far no evidence submitted that any criminal conduct was recorded or that there was a reasonable suspicion one might be.

I will bend on whether such conduct should be a crime or a misdemeanor.

 

and had she taught the daughter to use the device herself, she would not be charged with a felony... for such a simple mistake because of a stupid law

 

Or it becomes a more serious charge involving a minor as a co-conspirator in criminal conduct.

If children can commit other types of offenses including theft, assault, etc, they can commit them against privacy rights laws. How we deal with the behavior usually involves some discretion and common sense. Normally we do not handle the theft of a lollypop from a store with the same fervor as we do the theft of a $10,000 bond.

 

pure technicality, perfectly legal for the child to record, just not for mom to do it for her

 

Is this the message we want to bring to our children? Protect your child because the system wont and we'll come after you?

If you wish to prepare your children for life in 21st century america, yes. Ours has always been an authoritarian wealth extraction and concentration power structure; some of us have just had the privilege of not having to face that fact before now. The fact that many middle class whites are just now learning this is causing some of them great distress. Also tell them they are under constant corporate state surveillance and have lost the guarantee of Habeas corpus.

 

How do you define a 'technicality' and how do you assert a right for a child, that the law did not proscribe in the statute? the language for the Tennissee statute is sitting in my link and I did not read any age based exemption. Children are not prosecuted because they often lack any mature concept of privacy, there is no normally no ill and malicious intent, and we leave it up to parents to correct certain behavior just like that candy bar example or child shoving another one on a playground. There are plenty of steps at which discretion interferes with an overzealous use of legal tools. But your statements in this post lack any legal basis that I can find. I am sure you will offer some.

 

people have gathered evidence of what happens at schools for ages, without secretly recording 20 or 30 minors and say, 5 adults without asking anyone if they could do it. This is not super complicated, to find a witness in this age. Grade schoolers are not known for their inscrutable code of silence.

 

And your post is the classic "I always believe the authorities" post. You are a good subject, so perhaps they will give you an award of some sort.

I'm all for the presumption of innocence, and the effort to find the truth, but you give no credibility to the woman.

 

We don't disagree then.

 

Does this now mean police body cams are illegal? I have a feeling this is the school's way of keeping parents in line and having total control over everything and the found a willing prosecutor to go along with it.

 

Just as politicans on both sides do

There are more poor whites than any other race so your argument has no merit whatsoever. Do you really think middle class whites have no poor white family members?

This authoritarian state derives from liberals expanding government giving them more power over our lives that's why this women is finding such resistance to her daughter's plight.

 

Do you have children? Because if you do it should be painfully obvious that at 9 years old most children are still intimidated by grown ups and putting one in a room with a group of adults and think you are going to get real answers stretches imaginationland to a whole new level.

Its clear you didn't read that the school was ignoring this woman's pleas for help.

 

A woman who is a single mother putting herself through college. In my book those are impeccable values considering the struggle of being a single parent, still finding time for college and to take such an active role in her child's life. If every single parent household had her values crime would be at a bare minimum.

 

yes I have kids, I don't think either parents or teachers need a lot of help learning how to get answers from one or two of these kids. No one suggests you have to use a 'room full of adults' I do not doubt that this woman truly perceives this situation as she describes it.

My child's privacy is not to be illegally compromised without my knowledge, for every parent or guardian or child, or teen that wants to. We are not wiring up grade school children as the personal spy network for every parent with an agenda, no matter how 'noble' you think their cause is.

I teach my kids to respect privacy and never to photograph or record anyone without their permission, let alone knowledge. It's unbelievably rude even if it isn't illegal. I take the toys away if they do not use them responsibly. Why would I think adults should disrespect children that way?

 

It's Virginia, not Tennessee, and the mother is of course a party, as is the daughter.

I'm stunned that a choice was made to charge the mother here; this won't end well for the school or those who chose to bully both the daughter and the mother.