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More Americans and most Republicans now believe in climate change

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Nov 30, 2018.

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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    Try this on for size:

    The earth will get warmer. Not get cooler. Not stay the same. Get warmer.

    That is demonstrably true.
     
    bx4, Dec 1, 2018
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    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    You got that right, some schools are drumming that into kids at an early age. Even if all the climate change alarmist claims of gloom and doom are true, the main actions demanded by the lords of green energy are nothing but a scam that will do more harm than good. Just seeing how they only push solar and wind to be our energy savior shows they have little regard for fixing the problem.
     
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  3. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    Oh really?
    Study: Solar Cycle To Cause A ‘Mini Ice Age’ As Early As 2020
    https://principia-scientific.org/study-solar-cycle-to-cause-a-mini-ice-age-as-early-as-2020/

    Slowing currents= cold weather
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...-study-finds-slowing-ocean-could-mean-n865516

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...antics-circulation-is-weakest-in-1-600-years/
     
    Tim15856, Dec 1, 2018
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  4. usfan

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    ..report shows the effectiveness in consistent, constant, and universal propaganda.. actual truth, science, and facts mean nothing, if the target belief.. or at least narrative.. can be pounded into people from all sources and institutions, the goal of homogeneity of belief is reached.

    ..and of course, any outliers must be discredited with endearing terms, like 'science deniers!', 'haters!', and the like..

    Welcome to Progresso World.
     
    usfan, Dec 1, 2018
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    The title reflects the rediculous nature of the left's propaganda.

    Of course the climate changes.

    The left purposely conflates "Climate Change" and "Mad Made Global Warming", because that's what leftist propogandists do.
     
    MAGA, Dec 1, 2018
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    Of course the climate changes. These changes are called seasons.
     
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  7. MrTLegal

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    America is currently the only country not signed to the Paris climate accords and more specific to your question, both China and India are world leaders in the production/development of new renewable energy projects.
     
    MrTLegal, Dec 1, 2018
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    bx4, Dec 1, 2018
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  9. MrTLegal

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    Like I said, take your weak ass attempt at exposing hypocrisy and shove it.

    I dont give two shits about your old girlfriend or anyone else acting in the least environmentally friendly level on a personal level. Those decisions will not stop or deny human's influence on climate change.
     
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    The amount of CO2 produced by humans stopped growing in 2016 and yet the world GDP continued to grow. So the notion that climate change deterrants would do more harm than good is debatable, at best.
     
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    36% of Republicans apparently disagree with you that climate changes.

    But the article goes on to discuss the more detailed findings regarding the acceptance by Americans in the almost certain existence of " man made global warming."
     
    MrTLegal, Dec 1, 2018
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    And those countries efforts consisted of "receiving our money" if we had stayed in that disaster.

    I am unimpressed.
     
    SiNNiK, Dec 1, 2018
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    Carbon taxes will hurt more than help. Just look to France to see the affect of increasing taxes on energy.
     
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    When the surfer dude in VXE-6 got a bad sunburn laying out on the C-130 wing at Willy Field, I believed in climate change, before you heard about the Ozone Hole, because there was nothing to do sometimes but read the National Science Foundation’s reports, when they discovered it, before you ever saw anything about that issue. The very first class I took after I got out was an Environmental Science class; my political alignment had nothing whatsoever to do with science.

    Making “Political alignment” have something to do with Climate Change, science, or Global Warming, the less cowardly phrase, is why there is a problem.

    When you tie science to politics, YOU make the issue political. Al Gore could not open his mouth without making science political; it played right into the hands of every special interest against it.

    You, and others like you, have made climate change and Global Warming an all or nothing issue involving political alignment. If more people believe now, YOU, and your kind, had nothing whatsoever to do with it; it is in spite of you that they have come around.

    PS. When GM bulldozed hundreds of Chevy Luv pickup trucks at Port Hueneme, for minor body rust, and wouldn’t sell one for $700 because of image, I swore never to buy a General Motors product as long as I lived, and it had everything to do with fuel economy and nothing to do with politics.
     
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    No need to spout simplistic and false BS. Their obligations under the Paris Accord are quite extensive.
     
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    Setting that increased cost is only side of the ledger (what are those increased revenues funding, for example)...
    Let me know where I can find that source please.
     
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    "Almost certain existence" <> "Agree with you"
     
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    I agree with ~98% of actively publishing climatologists. So I am comfortable in my acceptance of their findings regardless of whether a significant percentage of Americans agree with me.
     
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    Believing in climate change -- is that like believing in Jesus Christ?
    Is this majority vote the final say, or does it have to go through some kind of electoral college?
     
    RodB, Dec 1, 2018
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    MAGA, Dec 1, 2018
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    98% of climatologists don't agree on the absurd Democrat agenda or the "Chicken Little" conclusions of the Democrats.
     
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    Why would they all agree about something we know so little about?
     
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