Most religious people are low IQ sheep (no offense)

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Can you describe the "huge step" and whether or not it is a positive one or a negative one?
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Most religious people are low IQ sheep (no offense)
    This must be a new debate tactic - influence through insult.
     
  3. mbk734

    mbk734 Well-Known Member

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    I think there will be several good and bad things to come from religious decline and we're seeing it already.

    Good: less wasted time going to church and reading silly religious texts and listening to someone blab, more productivity, fewer pointless church jobs and child abuse, no more tax exempt status

    Bad: less volunteering, lower morals if parents/schools don't step up to fill the void, less sense of community and affiliation
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    religion is nothing more than indoctrination, children believe whatever their parents tell them to believe...born into a hindu family and it's no surprise you're a hindu, muslim child the same, christian, animism, mormonism, Jehovahs witness ...whatever religion chosen it's brain washing from birth nothing more...
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    On your good side I might suggest that people practice religion for social purposes more than anything else. How they spend their social time shouldn't interfere with how you spend yours. No need for you or I to practice religion. No need for you to be bothered by people who wish to do that. Even though I don't practice religion I would certainly prefer to live in a world with religion than without it. for your "bad" suggestions.
     
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    There are a ton of such voices, several contradictory. There's ones that speak of freedom, duty, safety, fairness, truth, greatness, power, etc.. Even the notion that we want to be consistent can be thought of as one of those voices. Going with only one voice (or maybe a couple of ones that happen to be pulling in the same direction) generally makes you a fundamentalist.

    The world is absurd, it doesn't owe us a single simple answer to any of the important questions in reality. A lot of the time, thinking you've found *the* answer just means that you've been so blinded that you've only found one.
    There are those for whom that is true, but dismissing all of evolution and godlessness on that ground would be to miss the more potent point.
    They were listening to their own voices too. The voices can make a herd.
    I think the still small voice varies more between people than you give it credit for (in addition to being fully distinct from a lot of other voices). There have been people who have seen their departure from religion as defending their little small voices.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, name calling is mostly what they're about. It's the grade school mentality. They have to use that tactic because their argument never changes anyone's mind or beliefs. Why anyone wants to bother to change anyone's mind about spiritual beliefs is beyond me. I mean who cares? Still it must fill some void within them. Then again, because they're back trolling everyday, the void must be vast.
     
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    If millennials were so smart they'd be able to figure out how to move out mom's basement and earn a living by themselves.
     
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    I have to admit, I've been wanting to put a Tide Pod on a fishing pole and cast it onto a college campus somewhere.
     
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    It's not new. I don't know where or when the very first 'third grade' was established, but this tactic was invented on it's playground and honed and refined by trolls.
     
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    I've read all that you've said, but consider this....there Are tons of voices out there but how many take the time to hear the "still small voice"? They have smart phones to their ear, or they listen to the radio, or watch TV or exercise and none of those are wrong, but they occupy the mind and soul to the point there is no room. Then to learn what is your "own voice" and separate it as distinct is another challenge. How many actually take the time to really hear? They pride themselves in their intellect but don't take the time to learn wisdom. Jesus said something in a prayer that really brings it home.... "Thanks Father in Heaven because you have hidden these things from the wise and prudent, but you have revealed them unto babes".
     
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    No, you just don't believe in God.
     
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    Post #13 cites two studies showing that religiosity is inversely correlated with intelligence. But ignorance is bliss and being high on God is definitely a good time.
     
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    So what you are saying is....that you are more intelligent and that makes you right. Think I'll try that one.
     
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    OP are you basing this on your own inherit deep prejudices? Or have you been to many churches or multiple faiths over the last decade?
     
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    Also crap, lots of crap but when people thought "Friends" was the genius sitcom for our generation I knew we were all doomed.

    Coach would have turned in his grave :(
     
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    Doesn't always work like that though. My parents (specifically mother) tried to indoctrinate me by sending me to a Sunday School, but now I'm the archetypal atheist. It just never worked on me, not even for a second. In fact I played hooky more times than attended the indoctrination lessons. I eventually told her that I'd 'passed the exams' so needn't go any more, and she believed it. :roflol:
     
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    The 'Coach' in Cheers? lol The most prized content of my external hard drive . . . every series, every episode. :thumbsup:
     
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    You got it, same here, have seen every episode many times.

    Grew up on Friday Night Cheers on C4 ;)



    This cuts you up because it was the last scene Coach was in (Nick had died a couple of months earlier.)
     
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    Classic stuff LM? Tks for that one. (I might start watching them all again tonight!!)
     
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    Coach died during the 3rd season and you'll notice the 2nd half of the episodes coach is always away or only appears in the cold openings (Which they filmed many of well in advance)

    This was the cold opening of the last episode of the 3rd season a fitting tribute to coach.

    The picture of Geronimo that appears in the bar in season 4 onwards and Sam straightens in the very last scene of the last episode was Nick's personal picture from his dressing room they hung it in tribute.
     
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    I'd say I trust scientists and the scientific method more than theologians and some holy book.
     
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    Must really suck to be a believer in the 21st century … the information age … with scientific facts and evidence continuously exposing their childish beliefs.

    These poor, desperate chumps have zero street cred.

    Why hasn't their alleged great god ever revealed itself to the modern world?

    Most likely correct answer … cuz their alleged great god is nothing more than a product of their wild imaginations... :thumbsup:
     
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    This is a bit vague, you seem to be making a bunch of presumptions about this still small voice which I might not agree with. But then again, I'm not sure where you're going with it or how it addresses my points, so who knows.

    Yes a lot of people could do with more quiet time, but I think different people will find different conclusions from that. I think the still small voices are going to be effectively as diverse as the other ones.
     

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