Mueller invokes unusual ‘conspiracy to defraud government’ charge to ensnare more targets

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    Oh, he'd break you down and find those travel and entertainment writeoffs were "conspiracy to defraud the federal government". :roflol:
     
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    Where was the old Mueller razzle-dazzle when he FORCED 11 Russian oligarch racketeers to leave US jurisdiction, rather than indict them along with Mikerlin? Mueller could have set the bar pretty high for FBI directors too. 12 Russian racketeers and 1 crooked SoS.
     
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    Mueller would have been a fine SS agent during World War II, doing the bidding of the Reich.
     
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    Mueller was / playing king-maker behind the scenes. POS with an "obligation" to the society he "envisions". Corrupt bureaucratic control freak supreme.
     
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    Mueller's tactics beginning during his FBI days though today are fine examples of fascist behavior while furthering his career.
     
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    The Democrats won't survive the results of this. Let it unfold. Grab some popcorn.
     
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    That's an interesting point. But more than likely it will be Congress that steps in and gives him a pink slip at that point.There's no way in hell he can charge the President with anything, the best he can do is give his findings to Congress. The only impeachment Trump might see is at the polls in 2020, Congress isn't turning that far upside down.
     
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    That's a good point. Congress could or the DOJ could. I mean Sessions is a prosecutor why not put himself back in and say OK this is enough of that? I thought he was a ***** for recusing himself anyway.

    Time to move on.
     
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    I dunno what Session's deal is. Originally I thought he recused himself with regard to Obama and Hillary's involvement in the campaign spying by Democrats and the FBI, FISA warrants, the "Lock Her Up" mandate............and I was okay with that, Obama's gone, she lost, as you say move on. But by doing so he left Trump swinging out on a limb with Rosenstein. He should not have recused himself but spoken softly to the DOJ underlings and FBI but carried the big mean stick and said cut this **** out or I'll turn all of you upside down. But he didn't and here we are, with an ongoing witchhunt and hopefully a second counsel coming. There's a lot of dirt on Obama and Clinton that would best be just ignored but now it's war, and Sessions better take the bull by the horns this time.
     
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    All the Trump crimes and all the criminals in Trump's associates and cabinet should be subjected to the sword of justice.
     
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    Sessions 'recused' himself because of his 'meetings' with Russians. If we recall, Congress was making a big stink about those. But the idea that just because Sessions met with Russians(and did so appropriately, as per his own testimony) meant that he should recuse as AG was laughable(as was the berating by mostly Democratic Congresspeople.)

    Remember, these were the same people who tried to use a note decades past, to smear the AG as a racist! In the same manner of their mock offense to the President's moves today, if the President were to fire Sessions tomorrow they would all of a sudden say 'Trump's trying to squash the investigation! OMG, Obstruction of Justice!'

    I could better appreciate the opposition to Pompeo, if I weren't convinced of the fact that had Obama or Bush appointed him, it'd be a 99-0 vote!
     
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    That's what the whole thing is, a lie to misdirect. There was no collusion.
     
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    Then nobody needs to be worried! But how can we conclude that if we don’t investigate it. I’m sure you think all these meetings with Russia they had and lied about are no big deal, but they worried our Intel agencies
     
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    They who? There has been nothing but rumor to link Trump with anything but a wild time with a porn star. I'm interested in his tax bill, illegal immigration solution, trade policies and handling of the various conflicts we are involved in. Russia, Russia, Russia doesn't tell us anything except how upset the left is as well as the old guard Republican stalwarts like McCain. I voted for this President and like what glimpses we get of what he is doing when it manages to peak out of the miasma constructed by the aforementioned political groups. The power structures of the left and right scare me more than anything I have heard from
    Trump.
     
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    I realize this isn't really on-topic but your thread title got me to thinking - is there are a charge for government officials who defraud the American people?

    Truth and honesty for me but not for thee...:boo:
     
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    He lied about trying to build a hotel in Russia
    His son met with a Russian agent to get dirt on Hillary
    His son in law did also
    So did his campaign manager
    Jared tried to set up a secret back channel with Moscow
    His campaign manager is a Russian money launderer who offered Russia campaign info
    His foreign policy advisor had worked with Russian spies before and still kept trying to get in with putin
    Another foreign policy advisor was approached by Russia with dirt on Hillary
    His national security advisor also had ties to Russia and lied about discussing sanctions with them
    And that’s just the tip of the iceberg!
     
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    None of that was illegal, most of it wasn't even unethical in the world of politics. So far the only crimes have been peripheral financial charges. How much has it cost to float these balloons and keep tapping them back in the air?
     
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    [​IMG]

    "Get Honest Jim Clapper and Commissar Brennan on the phone -
    I've got something for them to worry about."


    :roll:

    No, we don't need to be dignifying the salacious and unverified accusations fabricated and financed by political campaigns with an "investigation" that costs millions of taxpayer dollars. Furthermore, federal "insurance" agents shouldn't be conning FISA court judges into letting them spy on opposition political campaigns, which just so happens to be against the law.

    No worries, though. The investigation into THAT is getting underway...:wink:
     
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    But it's just the tip of the iceberg!
     
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    No but it was MORE than enough to look into if someone was helping Russia with their meddling
     
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    That was Hillary, try to keep up.
     
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    Yah any day now you’ll find someone from the obama admin to arrest. Meanwhile trumps campaign manager is facing 300 years in prison lmao
     
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    Think Manafort will get the 300 years he’s facing or get lucky and only get 150?
     
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    I should care?
     
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    I'm not expecting any arrests soon, but the rats are already flying overboard.

    For something that has nothing to do with the Insurance Agency's "collusion" canard.

    The next time you guys wanna put on one of these give me a call...

    [​IMG]

    ...I charge a lot less than that insurance agent Bob Mueller. :razz:
     
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