Muslims respond in revulsion to Charlie Hebdo massacre

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Ill type in capital letter, see if it breaks throu your empty and slightly hysterical slogans you troll around here :

    HAMAS - NOT PALESTINIANS - NOT ABBAS - BUT HAMAS - ARE A TERRORIST ORGANISATION THAT USES THE EXACT SAME METHODS AS ISIS AND AQ- CANNOT POSSIBLY SAY THEY OPPOSE TERROR.
     
  2. Gilos

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    How many Israelis did Saddam kill and how many did Hamas ? how far is Iraq from Israel and how far is Hamas ? do you understand the idiocy in your post now ? Iraq is farther, less dangerous to Israel and monsterly big than Hamas is yet Israel wanted Iraq eliminated but not Hamas ? I mean if US is doing whtever Israel wants than the list is very diffrent.....dear wierd African spider.....
     
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    I am disgusted by Jewish terrorists, not Jews in general. Please notice your own hate of Muslims, you hate not only "terrorists" but all Muslims.
     
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    You mean Musilms who terrorize to the tune of 290,000,000. No need to lie.
     
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    All the same in that their goal is the creation of the Islamic state and imposition of Islamic law. All the same in the belief that the slaughter of unbelievers is an acceptable tool to help bring that about. All the same in the belief that "Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes". These dead terrorists in France have achieved their wish. The likes of Hamas have indoctrinated these terrorists their entire lives.
     
  8. Yetzerhara

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    Shame on me. Spare me the feigned moral indignity. Hamas has recently turned back to Hezbollah and Iran for support but during the actual war with Israel was being aided by not just Iran and Hezbollah but Al Quaeda and ISIL even while those two were at war with one another.

    We have Al Quada's unit in Syria, Al Nusra, fighting Assad. We have ISIL in Syria fighting Assad and outside Syria righting Al Quaeda, Hezbollah and Iran as well as Israel. We have Al Quaeda fighting the US in Iraq and the Kurds.

    We have Iran, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas all fighting Israel with certain Fatah cells. Then we have other Fatah cells fighting Hamas on the West Bank and in Gaza. We have the Turks who financed and trained ISIL with the US now trying to shut it down with the enemies of Turkey the Kurds.

    Turkey is now openly training Hamas terrorists and allied with Hezbollah and Iran against Israel and the Kurds, but also has to allow he Kurds to fight its rogue cell ISIL and Assad who is supported by Hezbollah and Iran.

    There is no logic or reasoning to the alliances. They are a mess. They fight together in some arenas and against each other in others.

    The Saudis play everyone after the other and so does Putin try.

    The only thing clear, is that Egypt, Jordan and Israel have an alliance against the whole stinking lot of them at this point and the three are in another alliance with Saudi Arabia against Iran, Hezbollah and ISIL but Saudi Arabia supports Hamas as long as it focuses only on Israel and not Egypt.

    ISIL, Al Quaeda, Hamas all originate with the Muslim Brotherhood which is still supported by the US and Turkey.

    Just as the leaders of Egypt and Israel keep stating, the cells whether they be extremist Sunni or Shiite are all equally as problematic. To Israel ISIL and Hezbollah may be enemies in Syria or Iraq, but both will not hesitate to help each other attack Israel.

    That is how it works Alexa and you can play innocent all you want about ISIL and Hamas not having a connection.. The US and Turkey support Hamas just as they once did their brother cell ISIL until it broke away from Al Quaeda in Iraq.

    Al Quaeda was recruited by the US and Turkey in an effort to stabilize Iraq and offset Iran and Assad and they turned on them no differently than ISIL.

    The US is now trying to suck up to Iran and Hezbollah and they will do the same thing.

    Until a new President comes in, these terror cells will run around in never ending chaos as part of a Shiite Sunni civil war and disasteros vacuum caused
    by Obama's alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The next US President will reconnect with Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, disconnect from Turkey and Iran and probably try salvage relations with China to offset Russia in the Middle East and elsewhere.

    Shame she says. Right.
     
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    Horse crap. Hamas and ISIS and Muslim extremists harm Palestinians. People like you who apologize for Hamas and what it does to Palestinians empower it to continue to hurt its citizens.
     
  10. Yetzerhara

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    Your assumption you are in the position to know let alone dictate what truth and fairness are is noted.

    So is your unproven, absurd and patently partisan allegation that others fight Israel's war.

    Lol. Yah its not Israelis in the IDF. Clearly they were people from Tonga.
     
  11. Talon

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    They use the same means to achieve the same ends. You can see the similarities in their thinking in the words of the Palestinian co-founder of al Qaeda, Abdullah Azzam:

    Jihad and the rifle alone

    A sentiment that is also expressed in the Hamas Charter.

    Perhaps, you've observed this by now, Gilos, but far too many Leftists in the West are far too eager to crawl into bed with Islamists. At first glance, they appear to be strange bedfellows - Leftists aligning with uber-right wing religious fundamentalists who oppose the values most Westerners hold dear - but the closer you look, the more similarities you find between them and their respective ideologies. Entire books have been written on this counter-intuitive phenomenon.
     
  12. Gilos

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    Anarchism, yes, I thought about that.
     
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    Look further, Gilos - the root disease is Nihilism. That is the source of their destructive impulses.

    One author who wrote about the Red-Green alliance had this take:

    A lot of people aren't aware of this - and our Leftist mainstream media did its best to keep it from the public - but the dirty little secret about the "anti-war" movement in my country during the last decade was that it was led by the ANSWER Coalition, which is a front organization of the communist Workers World Party and is also led by the Party for Socialism and Liberation. One of the most prominent groups in that coalition is Code Pink, which is led by Medea Benjamin, who is also a communist/socialist. Whoever says the Left isn't in bed with Islamists is lying.

    I personally counter-demonstrated against those America-hating jihadist fanboys back in 2007, so I know who and what they are - I've confronted them face-to-face. But you don't have to take my word for it - this Trotskyist pointed out the same thing:

    Furthermore, another one of the leading groups in ANSWER that fought against our war against al Qaeda, et al, was the Muslim American Society (MAS) which was founded by members of the Muslim Brotherhood - an organization that you and your countrymen are well familiar with (as we all know, it was the Muslim Brotherhood that spawned Hamas).
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    It depends on the country. In France, there is widespread prejudice against hiring North African Muslims, so this results in very little economic mobility for a lot of them.

    In the UK, there's not much excuse. The UK has robust antidiscrimination laws just like our system, yet, they still seem to attract radicals. Admittedly, some of their radicals are homegrown, whether through conversion or through 2nd generation immigrants that fall prey to alienation and manipulative clerics.

    However, it also doesn't help that many UK mosques have been proven to preach radical ideology, as shown by the expose on the Green Lane Mosque, for example.

    In short, the UK government has quite a task before it in dealing with these problems.
     
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    Modern leftism is a Jewish creation and supporting Islamic invasion is historically Jewish. That's the connection. Trying to find consistency between leftism and Islam is a nonsense. Leftism is just a dishonest tool to facilitate Western destruction.
     
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    Mostly it is due to old Soviet Cold War propaganda influence on the 'New Left' in the 1960's. Western psuedo-intellectuals and academics are still repeating that nonsense to this day; it goes well with European antisemitism.

    It's a fashion, not a real position; it's about their egoes and patting themselves on the back for being so 'enlightened' and such, never mind the shallowness and idiocy of it. It's become the new orthodoxy. The article linked to below is a good synopis of the mentality. Insipid Fashionistas don't give a damn about the death and misery they sow, since it doesn't affect them directly; it's all about pseudo-intellectual fashion. You see the same sort of vapid idiocy in 'New Atheism'. 99% of them are morons, and the other 1% just manipulate them.

    http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-32.htm

    ... and more at the link.
     
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    Every single person who speaks for a god, and unlike Jesus says that slander against such prophets can’t be forgiven, is the most horrible kind of bigot imaginable, a murderer most foul, and his toolbox contains the words “slander” and “blasphemy,” along with the pear of anguish, the rack, and a nice set of flaying knives.

    For freedom and truth to exist the future must belong to those who can slander the co-called “prophet of Islam,” and denigrate religious beliefs of others, free from intimidation by such traitors to our Constitution like servants of the murderous bigot Satan Obama and Clinton:

    Official Statecraft of the United States of America, the first one was posted on the State Department's website:

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." (Clinton)

    "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." (Obama)

    “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." (Obama)

    “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44)

    Obama is worse than Hitler, a murderer of zillions of countless souls in the universe whose virtual future cannot slander the false prophet MoHamMad.

    Who is the judge of the “informed” prophet? Let the so-called “God” judge the slanders and blasphemy against those that dare speak for a God, anything else leads to murder.
     
  18. Talon

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    LOLZ. Modern Leftism is a creation of the French Revolution. Obviously, you don't have a clue what the religious beliefs (or lack thereof) of the Jacobins, Babeuvians, et al, were. You'll be disappointed to find that they included Catholics, Protestants, Deists and atheists. :roll:
     
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    Although the 'left-right' terminology certainly stems from the French Revolution I would argue that, in Europe, the bourgeois English Revolution under Oliver Cromwell pre-dated progressivist politics by over a century.
     
  20. Talon

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    There's certainly an argument to made there.

    The man I consider chief ideologue of the American Revolution - Samuel Adams - spoke out against "Utopian schemes of leveling, and a community of goods" as " visionary and impracticable" decades before the French Revolution. I trust you recognize that rhetoric...
     
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    You make these sweeping srereotypes with no basis for your conclusion. Say why stop there, let's add to your list and say about Jews:

    1-we created the plague
    2-are responsible for earth quakes
    3-we invented Satan
    4-we have sex with bagels.

    When you come on this board and throw out ridiculous stereotypes, and then try carry on as if they are fact you simply bring light to your own
    toxic prejudices.
     
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    I doubt he knows where France is.
     
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    Can you provide some quotes demonstrating that French revolutionaries considered races biologically equal?
     

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