Muslims: Use this thread to condemn London attack

We are told that "Muslims" do not condone the attack in London on the unarmed soldier.

So far, however, I have not seen any of our resident PF Muslims, or their apologists, condemn this attack.

This is your opportunity:

Condemn this attack.

If you qualify your condemnation with any attempt to justify it, your condemnation counts for less than nothing.

 

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa Surely you jest. Terrorists swim in the ocean of islam...that is what people do not understand. But the people should not be blamed for their confusion....when you have all the leaders of western civilization proclaiming Islam is a religion of peace. When you have about half of our population repeating the mantra 'not all muslims are terrorists' every time there is a muslim terrorist event or they will say things (and you see it on here) there is no difference between Islam and any other religion...like all religions are somehow responsible for muslim atrocities.

Yes the people are confused and they will remain confused because they listen to those who would and will deceive them.

 

There won't be any condemnation of the attack coming from that quarter. Islam is the religion of the AntiChrist, which they are conclusively proving with the passing of each and every day, they'll be beheaded if they do, instead.

Serving up the body and blood of the Christian, literally, reminiscent of the Mayans cutting out the heart of their still living sacrifical victim, but worse, much worse.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/23/...ed-soldier-muslim-converts-both-known-to-mi5/

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/23/...yal-of-islam-but-rather-a-portrayal-of-islam/

 

I may or may not agree with you that Islamic terrorism is not a "fringe" part of Islam, it is a "mainstream" part of Islam.

However, I am giving our PF Muslims a chance to make an unconditional condemnation of this attack in London.

Convince me that those who say most Muslims sympathize with terrorists are wrong.

 

I'll lay odds not a single person claiming to be a Muslims will ever publish an apology or condemnation for any Islamic Violence. They're either supporters, or afraid of being the next victim if they do.

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Like giving liberals on this board the opportunity to condemn the attack...very few of them ever do....they had rather attack Christianity or any other religion except islam...even though islam executes homosexuals routinely.

 

In the same vien, when are you "Christians" going to apologize for the Lord's Resistance Army?

 

I am not looking for Muslims to "apologize" for the attack, only to express a sense of outrage that it happened, without any attempt to explain it or justify it.

 

Exactly....and the liberals are the ones known for apologizing or making excuses for muslims and Negro criminals, as well as other miscreants.

But to see any muslim or liberal or any other misguided person actually condemn these acts of Islamic barbarism is very rare indeed.

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Grasping at straws eh? heh heh I bet you had to look long and hard to find some tribe in Africa that you could use to fit your agenda. So who are they and what they have done? You may be the only person in North America that has ever heard of them.

 

Perhaps you missed this?

British Muslims condemn horror in Woolwich

The blood of the innocent shed in Woolwich calls for a high-level inquiry into how the Koran is being interpreted and taught in British mosques and madrassahs, and the links most of our mosques have with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

What happened in Woolwich is in line with what Salafi zealots have been doing in Syria and Pakistan to other Muslims who do not share their bleak view of the Creator. M A Qavi, London SE3

Words struggle to describe the deep anger at this cowardly attack on our off-duty soldier. This has been an attack on every one of us and the nation stands united in its abhorrence and disgust. But hard lessons need to be learnt about who knew of the radical ideology of these thugs. It is alleged that at least one of them was known for overtly jihadist views, so we need to know whether pre-emptive action could have been taken by the security agencies. This attack has also exposed the blatant failure of the UK’s Muslim organisations and previous governments’ complacent attitude in cosying up to them. I have not seen any UK Muslim group or educational institution confront, in a structured and comprehensive manner, this pernicious anti-UK propaganda, rife among converts in social circles, schools, higher-education institutes, prisons, etc. UK Muslim youth needs to be taught the fundamental democratic values of Britain and its core national ethos, together with patriotism. When it comes to the internal security of this country, every Muslim youth should be a soldier and a watchful guard. And Muslim youth also needs to be taught that members of our armed forces heroically fulfill the tasks entrusted to them, and that foreign policy is an expression of our national interests, which can be changed through national consensus, civic efforts and legitimate lobbying.

Dr Lu’ayy Minwer Al-Rimawi, Co-Director, Master’s Programme in Islamic Financial & Business Law, BPP University College, London WC1

The savage killing of the soldier has to be condemned without reservation by all Muslims. This monstrous act fills us with utter revulsion, and our heartfelt condolences are extended to the victim’s family. Last week, the British Muslim community was in the spotlight with the conviction of a sadistic Muslim paedophile gang in Oxford. This week, two misguided Muslims, most significantly new converts to Islam, have brought further opprobrium to practising Muslims in the UK. These terrible scourges of paedophilia and terrorism within some strains of British Islam are sadly reflective of the broader incapacity of the Muslim community to fully integrate with the mainstream. If UK Muslims were genuine and effective stakeholders in British society, the ideological drivers that fuel immoral sexuality as well as bloody terrorism would be inhibited, if not eradicated.
British Muslims must disassociate themselves from all variants of imported religious fundamentalism so that fascist groups and far-right organisations cannot exploit burgeoning social tensions in the UK. But there are also unpalatable, underlying reasons behind the Woolwich brutality. There is a clear correlation between Tony Blair’s illegal invasion of Iraq a decade ago and the emergence of Muslim terrorism in the UK. This in no way condones this despicable deed, but Labour’s former leaders must be held accountable for dragging this country into needless, US-inspired foreign adventures. They are partly responsible for providing Muslim militants, here and abroad, with their toxic propaganda. It is high time that the UK honestly addresses the roots of Islamic terrorism instead of focusing just on its contemptible results.

Dr T Hargey, Imam, Oxford Muslim Congregation, Oxford

There appears to be confusion among the British Muslim communities over the horrific episode in Woolwich. A segment of the British Muslim communities suggests that Muslims ought not to show their feelings of disgust about this cowardly attack. They believe such outward expression of condemnation amounts to apologising and could be viewed as acceptance that it is Islam that preaches such acts of violence. I suggest an alternative view to the community to which I belong. Any public condemnation of this or similar acts only highlights the feelings of solidarity British Muslims hold with the victims and is a show of defiance to the radical ideologists who try to hijack their religion to further their agenda of hatred and division. Muslims and non-Muslims alike should stand shoulder to shoulder in sending such unified messages to the preachers and perpetrators of hate within our communities.

Dr Shaaz Mahboob, Uxbridge, Middlesex

I am a teacher at an Islamic faith school in Birmingham and involved in a local neighbourhood forum. I felt compelled to write to you to plead that you give us (the Muslim community) a voice to utterly condemn this horrific event. Please help us to give a loud, clear and unequivocal response to this criminal act. This is an act of madmen: nothing in this can be associated with Islam. We Muslims need to reassure our fellow British citizens that we stand with them against all forms of extremism, terrorism and acts of treason.

Kashif May, Head of RE and Behaviour, Al-Furqan Community College, Birmingham

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...h-8629693.html

British Muslims emphatically condemned the actions of the Woolwich killers, as thousands used social media to express their outrage and sorrow.

Several Facebook pages, including one called "RIP Woolwich Soldier –Muslims Grieve For You Also" were set up by members of the Islamic community in a spontaneous outpouring of grief at the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.

Their messages reflected the outrage of the nation and the particular anger of a community that felt the perpetrators had hijacked their religion to justify violence.

"The horrific attack in Woolwich had nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with the scum who say they do this in the name of Islam," wrote one Facebook user, Imran Khan. "It's a minority like you, who give Muslims like me who work hard to build interfaith relationships, a bad name. You are a disgrace to Islam," added Tameena Hussain.

Some messages reflected the exasperation of a community repeatedly under siege after acts of terrorism or violence by a minority. "I'm done apologising for things I haven't done. Cold-blooded murder committed by random Muslim have nothing to do with Islam," wrote Nader.

The grassroots messages of condemnation echoed the statements of established community groups such as the Muslim Council of Britain, which issued an unequivocal statement.

"This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family," it read.

The Islamic Society of Britain said: "Justifying this killing in the name of faith or religion is false and rejected by the Islamic Society of Britain, by the scripture, by those who commit to God, by civil society, and by truth."

Mohammed Shafiq from the Ramadhan Foundation said: "London and our nation will come together and will not be divided. The terrorists will never win."

Fiyaz Mughal, the director of charity Faith Matters, added: "The cold-blooded killing of a British soldier is a crime that sickens every member of every community in the UK. We must come together, isolate those who believe that extremism and violence are acceptable, and work to ensure that they meet the full force of the law.

"We must send a clear message to anyone that an attack on a serving soldier going about their daily activities is something that must be utterly condemned."

Paul Salahuddin Armstrong, of the Association of British Muslims, said the attackers' actions had "removed them from Islam, because there is no grounds to justify terrorism".

Akbar Khan, from Building Bridges, condemned "the killing of an innocent person" and "all forms of extremism wherever they are".
'All our hard work is undone'

"When you hear of these atrocities, you bury your head in your hands and you don't want to hear that a Muslim is involved," said Zulfi Karim, secretary of the Bradford Council for Mosques.

In Bradford, bridges have been built between different communities. When the city's only synagogue faced closure because the Jewish community was struggling to raise funds to fix a leaky roof, their Muslim neighbours came to their aid with a £2,000 donation.

"All the hard work we are doing, and then something like this happens and you feel you have gone three steps backwards," said Mr Karim. "The last thing we want is for Christians to fear Muslims on the streets of Britain."



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...internalSearch

 

^I like how this.....

^......predictably proves this correct. Almost like clockwork. It was the very next post.

Dude didn't even make an effort to address the actual topic of the thread. He just immediately tried to redirect it toward Christians. You called that one, Diablo.

 

Actually the Anti-Christ will be Jewish. He is named the true messiah by Israel, and they would only do that for a Jew.

 

I just watched the video of the family's press statement. It breaks my heart. You (*)(*)(*)(*)ing evil Islamic bastards, I hope you get what's coming to you.

 

So then, you blame all Muslims for the acts of a few? Do you blame all Christians / Hindus / Buddhists for the actions of a few also?

 

Are we not known by the company we keep?

 

Of course they do, except for Christians.

Their end goal is to eliminate all other religions from the world, except for Christians, because while they're all barbaric heathens who believe silly and evil fairy tales Christians are, of course, right

They reserve their special ire, of course, for the Jews, who are like the crazy uncle locked up in the basement of a Mafia family. He believes part of the family story, just not the part about where all the police and governments in the world are against them just because they don't like them and it has nothing to do with all the crimes they run.

And have you noticed how all of them are just completely and utterly ignoring post 10? in which you prove incontrovertibly that most muslims in fact DO exactly and precisely what they are asking for?

It's like they stick their fingers in their ears and go "na-na-na" except maybe now it's in Latin

 

I would if around the world, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists were causing a similar amount of terror in the name of their god.

 

Most people of faith decry the actions of the few that damage their religion, please note my post #10. I agree Aleksander, I agree. Finally, perhaps Zxereus, you are unfamiliar with the Hindu mobs and the Buddhists in Sri Lanka?

 

The LRA is a terrible terrible group of people who claim to be christians, they are some of the worst scum on this planet they make the taliban look like angels. As a christian I have no problem condeming their actions. However, Lefty I can not apologize for them.

 

I condemn this attack.

 

Muslim cleric says the beheading of the british soldier is justifiable under Islam.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/24/Cleric-Beheading-British-Soldier-Could-Be-Justified-Under-Islam

 

You are jumping to conclusions again.

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Look at your sources............

 

Look at how you refuse to condemn the beheading of a British Soldier on the Streets of London.

BTW you automatically condemn any source that disagrees with your liberal agenda.

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According to the British newspaper The Independent, Cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed believes the attempt to behead a British soldier in London can be justified "under certain interpretations of Islam."

 

I don't see a global threat from the Hindu faith, as there is from the Islamic.

 

I do not think the liberals realize just how ridiculous their claim that 'religion' is to blame for terrorism but will not single out the one religion(islam) that comitts the great majority of terrorism. They want to spread out the 'blame' make it appear that all religions are equally guilty.