My Biden vote is not an endorsement of his gun control.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Siskie, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Most suicides and murders are committed with handguns.

    UK has much lower murder and suicide rate then USA.
     
  2. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Democrats have their big faults.
    Republicans have their big faults.

    Tolerance of guns which kill 34,000 people per year in USA alone is where Conservatives are very wrong.
     
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    So what you are saying is you believe in the right to bear guns but not the right to bear arms.

    Also any thoughts on just how powerful a gun it would take to stymie an over reaching government is speculative and subjective.
     
  4. TurnerAshby

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    Protesting with a firearm is a thinly veiled threat through inference.
     
  5. TOG 6

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    Protesting with a firearm keeps the antifa trogs from trying to punch you in the face.
     
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  6. Siskie

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    When they target anyone wearing a MAGA hat by randomly attacking them without provocation, they open themselves up to being set up for an easy justified homicide in self defense case.

    Just arm yourself with a conceal carry weapon, put on a MAGA hat and go to a liberal area. Do nothing but walk around minding your own business and wait for the random assault because of your hat. As soon as the attack happens, scream “I fear for my life” and end them. Since they randomly attacked you for doing nothing but existing, they are the violent criminal assaulter and you are the victim that had to defend yourself.
     
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    Some leftist DA will argue you provoked the violence against you; as such the people who assaulted you acted in self-defense.
     
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    Well whoop de do! If it weren't for gun control I'D probably not bother voting. You chose your poison, now prepare to abide by the consequences as they come.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A gun nut Socialist....you'll just have to put up with us "gun-nut Americans" I guess.
     
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    You mean like the 30 or so dead from the "peaceful" protests this past year?
     
  11. garyd

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    That doesn't even make sence. The police are the chief enforcement arm of an over reaching government...
     
  12. FreshAir

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    if all black people started walking around with ar-15's, that would be when the right would support gun control laws
     
  13. Indlib

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    State and local police are an arm of the federal government? What about the military?
     
  14. FatBack

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    Biden does not want them to be able to own them. Those one are pretty damn stupid to stump for someone who vowed to take the very guns they are holding.
     
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    that was trump

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  16. garyd

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    The military operates over seas. And the forces in the US are too small in number to actually police the country and if you're depending on the national guard to police the country you should remember that the national Guard us almost certain to share the cultural beliefs of the part of the country in which they reside. They are far more likely to tell the feds to eff off than support them.
     
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    You dont even want to compare Bidens agenda. We can start with his plan to ban all internet sales of guns, ammo, kits and even parts, right down to screw. Sue gun manufactures....want to continue?
     
  18. Indlib

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    Is that what you think? That military personnel can not be recalled? Good grief that doesn't even matter. Their are more then enough naval ships sitting in Norfolk and San Diego alone to decimate both coasts for 20 miles inland. That doesn't even consider air strikes.

    Seems odd that you are so against the 2nd amendment that you will make proposterous claims as an excuse to deny yourself constitutional rights.
     
  19. Siskie

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    Let us just cut to the chase. The Democratic Party wants to take the most popular, commonly owned rifles in American. The only way you will get them, is if you make hypocrites of yourselves by sending armed teams to cause gun violence and gun death with AR-15s to take AR-15s by force. We won’t hand them over or register them so you know where they are.

    Good luck and may the invisible sky fairy have mercy on the non existing souls of those stupid enough to try the door knocking approach.
     
  20. FreshAir

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    just like machine guns, if the laws change, most will follow the law, if they really want ar-15's, they will have to jump through the hoops

    but regardless, that won't happen under Biden, not enough votes in congress, so nothing for you to worry about, Trump had the same issue when he tried
     
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    So why don’t you use the Pareto principle to tackle the largest segment at issue first instead of passing useless laws that punish law abiding citizens?
     
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  22. TurnerAshby

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    Best form of protest is your vote
     
  23. CCitizen

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    Sadly, most people who plan homicide and suicide do access guns.
     
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    We live in a free society and it just infuriates some.
     
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    Did you notice how you tried to pivot away from the point?
    I did.
    I accept your concession.
     

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